Deca/ Test E pic thread..

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bAMRam

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Whats up guys!! Really excited to start my new course pretty soon.

Week 1-14: Test E 500mg/week (Mon, Thurs)
Week 1-12: Deca 400mg/week (Mon, Thurs)
Week 1-4: Dbol 50mg/ed (Maybe 5 weeks)

Clomid 3 weeks after course at 40/40/40/40

Tell me what else you think i need. I think im going to get some hcg to keep on hand in case, or should i use armidex or both? Don't want to risk health issues later on.

Is this pretty solid or what else do you think i should add or leave out.

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This is my pre cycle pics. yes i know im lacking in the chest area lol. I have had reconstructive surgery on my left shoulder and multiple dislocations on my right shoulder from contact sport. This has effectively dropped my bench to 185lbs lol. nothing i can do about it. physically cant lift the weights.

Sorry its been a while, this pic is 4weeks in. I went from 196lbs to 212lbs at time of pic. Pinn is G2G
 
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i think hcg is for your testicles so they wont shrink. and arimidex is an aromatise inhibitor and it is for gyno, odor, and other secondary efects, you will need both
 
youve read up and have everything where it should be buddy but id add afew things if i were to ensure youre protected and to give you a smoother recovery. You def need some testicular support imo and your cycle is not a beginners. Have a look at how id run it buddy, youve got everything in the right place but its abit basic for what you are running.

1-14 test e 500mg/wk split mon/thursday
1-12 Deca 400mg/wk split mon/thursday
1-4/6 dbol
1-12 N2Guard. (organ protection, liver sup, Bp etc)
2-12 aromasin 12.5 eod (deals with the eastrogen)
1-12 caber .5mg x2 week (deals with prolactin)
6-14 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500ius x2 week (testicular support)
PCT.
16-19 clomid 25/25/25/25
16-19 Nolva 20/20/20/20 (serm dosages low as they increase prolactin)
16-21 Forma stanzol (keeps eastro at good level and deals with rebound, increases free test, again up to you by i always use it))
16-21 daa (test booster helps alot, up to you tho)
hope this helps..
 
Just got my gear today from Pinn!! Super excited! Starting Monday. Will post before pic pretty soon! Thanks for advice. Nick the reason i was curious is because ive done this exact course before (was actually my first course) ex gf dad was IFBB pro and he administered everything for me, however i didnt get any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and didnt suffer any gyno. Now im on my own im asking if i need this stuff.

I pretty much just bent over and didnt do any asking lol
 
nickb86 said:
youve read up and have everything where it should be buddy but id add afew things if i were to ensure youre protected and to give you a smoother recovery. You def need some testicular support imo and your cycle is not a beginners. Have a look at how id run it buddy, youve got everything in the right place but its abit basic for what you are running.

1-14 test e 500mg/wk split mon/thursday
1-12 Deca 400mg/wk split mon/thursday
1-4/6 dbol
1-12 N2Guard. (organ protection, liver sup, Bp etc)
2-12 aromasin 12.5 eod (deals with the eastrogen)
1-12 caber .5mg x2 week (deals with prolactin)
6-14 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500ius x2 week (testicular support)
PCT.
16-19 clomid 25/25/25/25
16-19 Nolva 20/20/20/20 (serm dosages low as they increase prolactin)
16-21 Forma stanzol (keeps eastro at good level and deals with rebound, increases free test, again up to you by i always use it))
16-21 daa (test booster helps alot, up to you tho)
hope this helps..
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If you could get a complete cycle in a box .. That would be it
 
bAMRam said:
Just got my gear today from Pinn!! Super excited! Starting Monday. Will post before pic pretty soon! Thanks for advice. Nick the reason i was curious is because ive done this exact course before (was actually my first course) ex gf dad was IFBB pro and he administered everything for me, however i didnt get any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and didnt suffer any gyno. Now im on my own im asking if i need this stuff.

I pretty much just bent over and didnt do any asking lol
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the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is to protect your balls and stop them from shutting down on cycle, i would def include it buddy as if you prevent shutdown rather than cure it later youll have a better recovery, and end up keeping more of your gains as your body will stabilize quicker. i would seriously get it bud as deca can shut you down hard and whats the point in going thro all the drama and effort to lose alot, better be safe and get the most from youre cycle, for the sake of $40 more you may aswell run it properly.
The aromasin is for the gyno and will deal with the eastrogen that gets converted from the test by the Aramotize enzyme. The caber is to deal with the prolactin from the deca and yes i would run both of these.
In short i would not change from my plan as i beleive if your going to spend all the cash and dedicate 3-4 months of your life you may aswell do it properly and get all you can from it. You dont wanna run it and then mess up as youll have wasted your time cash etc and gain alot less. My opinion is too cycle 1 or twice a year but get everything you can and do it safely rather than running 3-4 crap cycles a year. Youre cycle is not a rookies so you must take care and do it properly buddy...
 
nickb86 said:
the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is to protect your balls and stop them from shutting down on cycle, i would def include it buddy as if you prevent shutdown rather than cure it later youll have a better recovery, and end up keeping more of your gains as your body will stabilize quicker. i would seriously get it bud as deca can shut you down hard and whats the point in going thro all the drama and effort to lose alot, better be safe and get the most from youre cycle, for the sake of $40 more you may aswell run it properly.
The aromasin is for the gyno and will deal with the eastrogen that gets converted from the test by the Aramotize enzyme. The caber is to deal with the prolactin from the deca and yes i would run both of these.
In short i would not change from my plan as i beleive if your going to spend all the cash and dedicate 3-4 months of your life you may aswell do it properly and get all you can from it. You dont wanna run it and then mess up as youll have wasted your time cash etc and gain alot less. My opinion is too cycle 1 or twice a year but get everything you can and do it safely rather than running 3-4 crap cycles a year. Youre cycle is not a rookies so you must take care and do it properly buddy...
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this is incorrect information. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does not prevent you from being shutdown. It stimulates your lh signal but on cycle does nothing but keep your nuts fuller. Pre pct blast helps jump start your lh. But no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does not make you less supressed
 
RowsAreForTheHoes said:
this is incorrect information. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does not prevent you from being shutdown. It stimulates your lh signal but on cycle does nothing but keep your nuts fuller. Pre pct blast helps jump start your lh. But no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does not make you less supressed
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im not saying you will not get suppressed, of cause you will but you can lessen the suppression and make for faster recovery than if you had not used it.
It won't prevent the shutdown of the pituitary, but it will prevent shut down (atrophy) in the testes and keep them functioning throughout cycle. So once you stop usage of it, you are likely still shut down in the pituitary. Your testes may atrophy abit, but it speeds up recovery for me and many others in the pct period.
it doesnt prevent shutdown exactly i know, but it helps prevent atrophy which allows for a faster restart of the hpta during pct and a much better recovery.
 
nickb86 said:
the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is to protect your balls and stop them from shutting down on cycle, i would def include it buddy as if you prevent shutdown rather than cure it later youll have a better recovery, and end up keeping more of your gains as your body will stabilize quicker. i would seriously get it bud as deca can shut you down hard and whats the point in going thro all the drama and effort to lose alot, better be safe and get the most from youre cycle, for the sake of $40 more you may aswell run it properly.
The aromasin is for the gyno and will deal with the eastrogen that gets converted from the test by the Aramotize enzyme. The caber is to deal with the prolactin from the deca and yes i would run both of these.
In short i would not change from my plan as i beleive if your going to spend all the cash and dedicate 3-4 months of your life you may aswell do it properly and get all you can from it. You dont wanna run it and then mess up as youll have wasted your time cash etc and gain alot less. My opinion is too cycle 1 or twice a year but get everything you can and do it safely rather than running 3-4 crap cycles a year. Youre cycle is not a rookies so you must take care and do it properly buddy...
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Thanks aton Nick! i will order the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and aromasin today. I will run the cycle as you suggested. It makes sense. spending a couple hundred $$ whats $40 more to be safe. keep you posted. First injection is sunday night. I was going to go monday thurs but i gym at 6:30 am so i feel the night before is better..
 
nickb86 said:
im not saying you will not get suppressed, of cause you will but you can lessen the suppression and make for faster recovery than if you had not used it.
It won't prevent the shutdown of the pituitary, but it will prevent shut down (atrophy) in the testes and keep them functioning throughout cycle. So once you stop usage of it, you are likely still shut down in the pituitary. Your testes may atrophy abit, but it speeds up recovery for me and many others in the pct period.
it doesnt prevent shutdown exactly i know, but it helps prevent atrophy which allows for a faster restart of the hpta during pct and a much better recovery.
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Yes that looks better. But their is no proof that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does anything on cycle besides keep your nuts fuller. A blast before pct will help jump start your lh which will help speed up recovery. I never run it on cycle for I don't have atrophy issues. I recommend Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on heavier cycle for it takes months sometimes to fully recover. Some recover faster some slower. To answer your other post. Nolva lowers igf levels alot so some guys do not run it. If running nolva on cycle with deca can cause progesterone receptors more sensitive so if you have prolactin issues I wouldn't run nolva on cycle with deca. Pct is fine.
 
RowsAreForTheHoes said:
Yes that looks better. But their is no proof that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does anything on cycle besides keep your nuts fuller. A blast before pct will help jump start your lh which will help speed up recovery. I never run it on cycle for I don't have atrophy issues. I recommend Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on heavier cycle for it takes months sometimes to fully recover. Some recover faster some slower. To answer your other post. Nolva lowers igf levels alot so some guys do not run it. If running nolva on cycle with deca can cause progesterone receptors more sensitive so if you have prolactin issues I wouldn't run nolva on cycle with deca. Pct is fine.
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yeh i know about the nolva sides thats why i have included the low dosages of nolva and also run the forma-stanzol with it, which deals with progesterone, increases igf1 levels and also increases free test.
Just because you cycle and dont need HCG, doesnt mean others will not need it, to be safe id rec adding it. This cycle is not a beginners and i seriously would include it.
get every thing you can from your cycle no point in skrimping. Everybody reacts differently better to be safe and have all neccessaries on cycle and ready to go.
 
bAMRam said:
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This is my pre cycle pics. yes i know im lacking in the chest area lol. I have had reconstructive surgery on my left shoulder and multiple dislocations on my right shoulder from contact sport. This has effectively dropped my bench to 185lbs lol. nothing i can do about it. physically cant lift the weights.
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good luck bro im sure youll do great, i recently had some of my shoulder shaved off to allow room for the tendon so know how you feel about the injuries, total nightmare, unfortunatly injury is part of this game and we all gotta deal with it time to time, as much as i hate it lol
 
Thanks guys! I was just thinking to myself i really am not "happy" with my progress. These past two weeks have been tough, last week i was in texas all week for a national tournament. I didnt gym once. Then this week my gf's dad had a heart attack on monday morning so i havent been to the gym either.

i'm disappointed with myself rather than the results, if you know what i mean. It's out of my control though. I'm trying to get in asap.
 
Just be consistent. A 16lb gain in 4wks is huge, even though a lot of it is probably water but you look a lot more muscular to me.
 
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