alright bro I have decided to dump the steroids and go natural. Now I have 1 question can I use arimidex as a natural test booster? iam not talking about post cycle therapy (pct). I was thinking maybe using this for 3 months at maybe .13 or .25 twice a weeks to naturaly raise test levels whats your say on this along with zma. this should be safe right?
deciding to go natural.
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Dreaded Pirate Roberts
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Armidex doesn't boost test. Sounds like you didn't know to much about what you were doing. Going natural is probably a good idea.
lol, you sure about that. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) equal lower estrogen thus increased lh leading to increased test. not a whole lot maybe 50% increase. now prove me wrong.
stiphy
In between cycles
Saw this on another board. I was curious about this also.
It is also important to point out Arimidex***8217;s ability to increase testosterone in the body. Some studies have shown that natural testosterone levels have increases as much as 60% after the use of this substance for 7 days. Because of this, bodybuilders find this drug extremely effective during PCT where as they are trying to elevate natural levels as much as possible in order to avoid a post cycle "crash".
It is also important to point out Arimidex***8217;s ability to increase testosterone in the body. Some studies have shown that natural testosterone levels have increases as much as 60% after the use of this substance for 7 days. Because of this, bodybuilders find this drug extremely effective during PCT where as they are trying to elevate natural levels as much as possible in order to avoid a post cycle "crash".
pickle bunny
The Ring Bearer
Why not go natural the whole way???? Why the crutch?
You can use armidex and will drop e2 thus increasing your T but as for dosing I would start very low for fear of bottoming out you estrogen and that could caus a whole set of new problems.
Good luck.
Why did you come to this road where you want to go naturall after using AAS?
Was there unwanted sides?
Trouble?Maybe family?
Just curious.
Good luck.
Why did you come to this road where you want to go naturall after using AAS?
Was there unwanted sides?
Trouble?Maybe family?
Just curious.
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
I would not be taking arimadex if I didnt have to. Who knows what kind of long-term effect t will have on aromatase inhibition.
I am still waiting prove me wrong that arimidex has no effects on test levels, you don't want to help but you feel the need to put your smart ass comments in every post don't you?
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
LMFAO! Talking some serious smack to a admin... never a dull moment on 'ology.
I heard of arimedex used as stated... but never really actually encountered people using it for that cause. Are you going to take test boosters at all? or was this the set plan?
I heard of arimedex used as stated... but never really actually encountered people using it for that cause. Are you going to take test boosters at all? or was this the set plan?
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TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
they have products out there for that sort of thing. I know Erase is used for that also. lowers estro, but keeping the test up, supposedly increasing it some. There are alot of in store supplements.
glubgawd
More Noob Than You
Arimidex MIGHT have little effect on test levels. It MIGHT have a significant effect.
Go pull up any article you've read about arimidex (nobody is gonna do work on your behalf here) and read for yourself the conclusions. They'll say "arimidex was shown to increase test levels by AS MUCH AS X%."
That basically means it could be total shit. Or it could be legit. Up to you to decide. It definitely means you almost certainly won't get the maximum benefit the article claims since they always list the 3rd standard deviation from the average in those kinds of studies.
Either way, I can't comment on how effective it'll actually be since not many people run it for those purposes. So give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
Also, you might want to consider legal PH/DS. You can purchase them legally in the US and they're actually quite effective.
anzel
New member
wait , I`m confused?? Are you going natural or are you using drugs? Adex is a drug. If your using a drug you are not natural. Drugs have sides. How will you be equipped to handle the sides??? You cant just guess your dose and maybe it will be ok.How long do you take it for and do you need some form of PCT at the end?.....Someone said there was a study done that people took it for 7 days and it upped their test levels 60%. Where is this study? Is that the only study done? Who were the subjects, in other words what were their conditions? What happened after those 7 days??
I dont think anyone is even doing this out there. Are they?? Quite frankly based on studies that I have read I think that SERMs and AI`s, are more dangerous than gear. Reserved for combating sides & for PCT.
I dont think anyone is even doing this out there. Are they?? Quite frankly based on studies that I have read I think that SERMs and AI`s, are more dangerous than gear. Reserved for combating sides & for PCT.
son,....do not make me come and get you out of that closet your hiding in or dat there "treasure chest" lol. I will stand up for you loyal ology members, all those that agree with me please rep me. I am going to put a stop to this shit once and for all.
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glubgawd
More Noob Than You
dude wtf are you even talking about anymore? Sounds like you're bumping this thread just because you want to start a fight (not a discussion) with a mod. Sounds like a stupid idea to me.
Get the fuck off your high horse and go look this shit up for yourself. Of course he's not going to waste his time doing your research for you. And nobody is impressed by you coming on here calling him a pussy when you're so pussy that those aren't side burns on your face - it's a double landing strip.
Now run along and post up your article in support of yourself instead of crying and asking someone to prove you wrong about something you've probably just heard regurgitated and never even read on your own.
Yes, you're right (as several have already said). Now go prove it.
Also, there are better options out there that won't negatively impact your lipid profile.
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mig139
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Dreaded Pirate Roberts
Administrator
Okay Just so you know I'm God here. So if you want to continue running our mouth you will be gone. My responsibilities here are not in the forums so I missed this. Sorry if you felt neglected. o can see I'm big boy and can take being challenged. I haven't banned you for disrespect yet.
I see from your conclusions you have read some of Anthony Roberts (we have been friends for 7 years) articles on Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or some comments that were formed from them. Lets be clear I helped him get his start. I wrote some of the info he included in the book published that was credited to him. Mr Roberts make assumptions that by blocking the conversion of Testosterone you end up with higher levels of Total free Testosterone. In Fact it in not the case. The body has a negative loop function with regard to hormone levels. When a hormone is introduced into the body the body takes actions to keep the levels consistent by reducing production to the appropriate levels. Why it is possible to get a small rise in testosterone by taking and Aromatase inhibitor (AI). It isn't possible to maintain it for more than a few days. Crashing your estrogen levels will lead to digestive problems among other things.
Suppressing digestive functions will not aid in muscle growth.
I was responsible for the introduction of AI's to the Bodybuilding community threw mass media. I was also the one who first reveled that Letrozole was effects in reversing Gyno.
Have some respect grow up and enjoy the community and make some friends. If you can't have some respect it will be short. Your in someone else's house act accordingly.
PS Mr Roberts would tell you I have more experience and Knowledge with and of AI's than most people on the planet.
I see from your conclusions you have read some of Anthony Roberts (we have been friends for 7 years) articles on Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or some comments that were formed from them. Lets be clear I helped him get his start. I wrote some of the info he included in the book published that was credited to him. Mr Roberts make assumptions that by blocking the conversion of Testosterone you end up with higher levels of Total free Testosterone. In Fact it in not the case. The body has a negative loop function with regard to hormone levels. When a hormone is introduced into the body the body takes actions to keep the levels consistent by reducing production to the appropriate levels. Why it is possible to get a small rise in testosterone by taking and Aromatase inhibitor (AI). It isn't possible to maintain it for more than a few days. Crashing your estrogen levels will lead to digestive problems among other things.
Suppressing digestive functions will not aid in muscle growth.
I was responsible for the introduction of AI's to the Bodybuilding community threw mass media. I was also the one who first reveled that Letrozole was effects in reversing Gyno.
Have some respect grow up and enjoy the community and make some friends. If you can't have some respect it will be short. Your in someone else's house act accordingly.
PS Mr Roberts would tell you I have more experience and Knowledge with and of AI's than most people on the planet.
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