Do I have to worry about organ growth at 5iu/day of hgh?

goingtowin

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I was planning on doing a year of 5iuhgh/day and then doing 2iu for maintence pretty much...forever as it's got some serious benefits for overall health.

would I have to worry about organ growth..? the last thing I want is a bigger waistline as I already have narrow shoulders.

what doses would you really have to start worrying about the serious sides such as internal organ growth??


ALSO wouldn't HGH litterally alter your genetics? It grows more muscle fibers. Doesn't that mean even when you come off your new muscle fibers wouldn't just..vanish? Right?
 
Doubt you'd ever have to worry about organ growth or extreme side effects with only 5 iu of probably generic HGH.

but, keep in mind that IGF-1 (by product of hgh use metabolized in the liver) repairs and builds ALL cells in the body , so that means organ cells, your intestinal lining and non-skeletal muscle (yes your stomach can grow), as well as Cancer cells and tumors (if there are any present in your body , hgh will help them grow at at accelerated rate).


wouldn't HGH litterally alter your genetics? It grows more muscle fibers. Doesn't that mean even when you come off your new muscle fibers wouldn't just..vanish? Right?

keep in mind that you already have plenty of HGH in your body , you've been producing for as long as you've been alive every single night . so NO its not going to alter your genetics ,, all your doing it taking an exogenous form of hgh and adding to what you already have in your body

HGH is NOT anabolic in and of itself . it does NOT build muscle directly. an 'indirect' by-product of HGH use is the liver metabolizing it and then the liver produces IGF-1 , insulin like growth factor (which builds and repairs cells) , then a 'by-product' of IGF-1 is MGF , Mechano Growth Factor, which is responsible for building and repairing tissue, (like muscle),, but ONLY if there is a signal at the receptor site itself that MGF is needed , so that MGF can be sent to occupy the receptor and perform its 'muscle building' effects.

without the proper stimulus , i.e, heavy weight training with overload and adaptive principles in place to facilitate hypertrophy ,, then HGH will do nothing for building new muscle . and again , its not the HGH itself that even builds muscle . again the HGH has an indirect by product IGF-1 that repairs cells, it may be your intestines that signal for 'growth' , and unfortunately you have no control of this , you can't tell the IGF to go build muscle instead . all you can do is properly train and create the muscle 'stimulus' to warrant growth


and on a side note: its possible that long term HGH use can lead to insulin resistance , raise your blood sugar levels over time (and all the negative health risks associated with that) and lead to diabetes.

just keep that in mind before making the huge monetary investment that your dead set on running HGH for 'life' because of crafty marketing schemes :)

imo, its just like AAS use . it needs to be ran for a specific purpose and reason, and ran responsibly for a certain period of time to accomplish those purposes. no point in running it just for the heck of it , too many negative health consequences can develop.
 
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Okay but the muscle that you gained while on HGH for a year.


Say you gained muscle that was caused by growing new muscle fibers.Why would this disappear? Wouldn't this be permanent? That's what I meant by altering your genetics. Some people have more or less muscle fibers but HGH creates new ones correct?
 
Also another really big question of mine.


If it's IGF-1 that is used for the actual growth of tissue/organs/muscle can you possibly buy this in a pure form? Or can you only get access from the HGH.
 
if your body 'needs' to grow new muscle tissue (i.e., Hypertrophy), because of stimulus - overload - and adaptations. then YES , it will grow new muscle . this can be done without exogenous HGH use of course.

the 'new' muscle will be permanent, so long as the body deems that that added muscle tissue is necessary for survival. If you stop training, stop eating and go into famine, then your body will most likely 'catabolize' that muscle tissue and break it down into amino acids and then further break those amino acids done into glucose and use it for energy to run more important bodily function besides muscle growth , like brain function.

so YES you can gain new muscle tissue . no , it will not necessarily be permanent.



As for IGF-1 ,, yes you can purchase and run both IGF-1 , as well as MGF (mechano growth factor). they are sold as 'peptides' under 'research chems'. I've ran plenty of peptides and IGF-1 and HGH. nothing compares to a solid AAS stack though .

another way to amplify HGH and IGF-1 production while on an HGH run is to run insulin with it. you can grow quite well on a Test/HGH/insulin stack . <-- I'd only recommend that for advanced users. looking to break a plateu after much AAS use
 
So IGF-1 and MGF are what bodybuilders seek out from HGH.

Any point in buying hgh instead of those then? Or should I go with IGF-1 instead? Not looking to get into insulin as i've heard it's really dangerous.
 
Also why would enlarged organs be permanent then? HGH apparently enlarges a lot more than just muscle. What exactly is the cause to force organs to grow yet you have to workout to get muscles to grow? I'm just trying to figure out the science behind HGH it's really complicated stuff
 
So IGF-1 and MGF are what bodybuilders seek out from HGH.

Any point in buying hgh instead of those then? Or should I go with IGF-1 instead? Not looking to get into insulin as i've heard it's really dangerous.

Seek a source for pharma hgh and get igf out of your mind its too expensive nobody here can probably afford it, igf from peptide sites are not the same thing
 
seek a source for pharma hgh and get igf out of your mind its too expensive nobody here can probably afford it, igf from peptide sites are not the same thing

*****no price discussion read the board rules*****
 
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goingtowin - I'm happy to answer some of your above questions , which have a lot to do with human biology , tomorrow when I have free time . but before then , i will leave you with this.

you are aware that Anabolic Steroids build and grow muscle at a much more rapid and stronger pace then HGH does right , and are way way way way more anabolic and effective , at a much more affordable price, right ??

Steriods increase IGF-1 as well, increase protein synthesis , and nitrogen retention and grow new muscle cells.

exampe,, TREN , It is 5 times more potent than standard test. It Binds more fiercely to the androgen receptor, bumping other weaker hormones off. It amplifies IGF-1 production. It increases the IGF-1 receptors. This double IGF-1 whammy makes the IGF-1 response huge. This means extreme muscle growth and cell splitting making new muscle cells.

Ranchers give Tren to their cattle on their way off to being butchered , why Tren instead of HGH ? Because Tren will add 50 pounds of raw meat to the cattle with little to no need to increase the food intake. hgh won't do that

news flash - TREN IS WAY BETTER THEN HGH AND WAY CHEAPER . if you want to gain muscle size and strength and growth , AAS is the fastest way to get there , not HGH


how many steroid cycles do you have under your belt ?
 
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Honestly HGH is worthless for growing muscle. This is my opinion of course. Like Rousch said above Test is better than HGH and Tren is even better.

Unless you pan on competing and need the healing properties of HGH don't waste your time. Now if your in your 40's or 50's and want to take 3-4 IUs a day then hell yes. Other than that PFFT!
 
will you be running the gh with steroids??? thats where you might come into issues.. specifically cardiomegaly (enlarged heart)

these crazy fuckers running 5-10iu gh with compounds like tren and deca or high test really need to worry about it..

i recommend keeping in close touch with a doc when doing the above
 
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