Doc pushing me onto nebido but unsure

[IMT staff]

I agree. Its how you feel. Its about symptoms. If you have lowT symptoms that inhibit your daily life then of course.

If you don't have any issues and you feel great then no reason for TRT Unless you score really low.

 

[Robertdublin]

I agree. Its how you feel. Its about symptoms. If you have lowT symptoms that inhibit your daily life then of course.

If you don't have any issues and you feel great then no reason for TRT Unless you score really low.

I do have symptoms, alot actually... But I think I'll hold off.
The fact that my doc said 'no no you don't have to stay on it for life don't worry' has me concerned in itself seen as most people say you are stuck on it forever lol

I'll hold off for a specialist.

One thing though, how is it that guys can run steroid cycles with pct and be fine coming off?? And trt guys can't come off??

 

[Robertdublin]

To be honest I think at this stage I'll have to go to a different doctor. It's clear by now that she doesn't have much clue about trt at all.

I get the feeling that she (the doctor) sees nebido like it's gonna give me the same results as pinning test enthanate twice a week @500mg pw or something, that's how it looks anyway.

If I wanted that then I could easily get my hands on quality steroids and run a 12 week cycle but honestly I'm not looking for a temporary high and huge muscle gain.

I do train, I'm not huge but I've got the v taper and it's obvious I enjoy bodybuilding but I have never used gear at any stage. Maybe the doc assumes I have and is just going along with it lol!!!

Anyway I'm 100% NOT going to start trt. I will get a second opinion. I will try find a gp that has a good knowledge of that area too. I'm on the public waiting list, who knows how long that will take though. I can't go private as my wife is 3 months pregnant and we are not very well off financially.

There's a slight temptation to run some clomid @25mg eod myself and see how it feels. It's not the hardest drug to get let's be honest. I have read alot of good reports on that dose and it seems to be the safest dose in terms of clomid side effects. I would get the bloods done at one month to check how it's working too.

Just an idea..... I'd rather restart my system and keep my fertility ad it's low already.

 

[Robertdublin]

Okay guys , UPDATE.....

Finally got to see an Endo last week. Wow , what an assh*le! Even my GP is baffled by his behaviour.

Basically he sat and gave me a lecture on using gear even though i have never juiced in my life. He didnt believe me and preached about steroids blah blah blah. I told him im leaving and not puting up with this B*llox so he said okay we'll run bloods at 8am.

This is the funny bit, he said my previous bloods were at 11am so i got low readings and he could guarrantee me therell be a huge difference in the test done at 8am.

Got the result today through the GP , down to its lowest ever @ 13mnol/l with shbg @24mnol/l.

Just goes to show, these 'experts' dont have a clue. this ass was 100% sure i was on juice before, 100% sure i'd be at least 30% up on the last test .

Gp is sending me for an mri of the pituitary gland to be safe , then its more than likely on to trt. I was planning a cycle of test but im going to hold off a week or two now.

Ive lost faith in 'consultants' now. Supposedly they know it all but this guy has left me stunned.

 

[daleb]

how bad is your fatigue? Could you give us a few real world examples... Endos are a special type of human being... probably somewhere between a politician and a shady auto mechanic. I think everyone who comes to this board has had a run in with an endo like yours.

Your labs are a lot like mine pre T. highish prolactin low estradiol lowish fsh and lh. Ive learned quite a lot in the last 10 months. I ended up having high reverse t3. Fatigue was horrible even on a lot of Test. Have your GP run a thyroid panel. Test TSH, Total T4, Free T4, Free T3, TPO, Tgab, Reverse T3. There are not a lot of causes of Reverse T3, but getting some T3 and running it for a few months will clear the Reverse T3, if that ends up being ur problem, but the exogenous T3 can have downstream effects and actually fix what caused the high Reverse T3. So I would start at the Thyroid. The labs will give us a good idea of where to go next.