Docs's Test E journal

[Metalhead]

Thanks for taking the time to comment Metal! I may be gaining a little too fast but since this is my first cycle I'd rather gain more and cut at the end than short change the 4 months I'll be on cycle, my point of view at least. Feel free to critique anything that pops up at you brother, I like your posts and you know your stuff so I'd trust your opinions.

Thanks bro. Everything honestly looks good and you know what youre doing. Getting stronger and putting on almost 20lbs in 6 weeks is impressive. Do you have any stretch marks? Ive noticed some on the edges of my armpits and on top of my traps and thats from gaining 20lbs in 10 weeks. im gonna make a major increase in cals the last few weeks to hopefully get 5-10 more and try to maintain as much after cycle

 

[Ocdude]

LMFAO!! My last 3some wasn't that long ago. My ex liked chicks just as much as guys and as long as she picked out the girls and I didn't have their contact info she didn't care at all. But my town has 3 fucking traffic lights to give you an idea of how small it is. I bears, coyotes, foxes, and wild turkeys almost as often as I see my neighbors here! You're bud just upped his carbs a bit or calories in general? Since mass is secondary concern to me I'm not too worried about the weight but I am concerned with strength and I know strength goes up with weight typically so I've had to keep eating haha.

I've been in those towns! You learn how to kill time in very interesting ways!
I'm one of those that believes your body really can only process so much protein, I shoot for the 1.5-2g per kg range and then moderate carbs based on current goals... And since you're not too worried about gaining a little extra, I'd say go for every pound of solid mass you can gain and work it off later! Try bumping your carbs up 500cals for a few days and see how it affects your weight.

 

[Docd187]

I've been in those towns! You learn how to kill time in very interesting ways!
I'm one of those that believes your body really can only process so much protein, I shoot for the 1.5-2g per kg range and then moderate carbs based on current goals... And since you're not too worried about gaining a little extra, I'd say go for every pound of solid mass you can gain and work it off later! Try bumping your carbs up 500cals for a few days and see how it affects your weight.

Only thing that helps me kill time here is work, school, gym, friends, girls, and reading up on the things I'm passionate about. I'm more of a "your body will adapt to anything thrown at it" guy especially since I learned about the ileal tract and the body slowing or speeding up digestion based on food intake volume but I get your point. My protein intake is between 1.2-1.7g/lb BW depending on the day fats I try to hit a minimum of 85-90g and carbs usually makeup the rest. I started this cycle at a little higher bf % than I would have liked but considering how much weight I've gained, I'm surprised I don't look "fatter" than I do haha. So long as I can look at myself in the mirror without cringing ill keep trying to gain. Since I bumped up to 3700-3900 cals its come from carbs and fAts. My protein intake has basically stayed the same. Thanks for the looks brother appreciate all the advice and help

 

[Docd187]

Thanks bro. Everything honestly looks good and you know what youre doing. Getting stronger and putting on almost 20lbs in 6 weeks is impressive. Do you have any stretch marks? Ive noticed some on the edges of my armpits and on top of my traps and thats from gaining 20lbs in 10 weeks. im gonna make a major increase in cals the last few weeks to hopefully get 5-10 more and try to maintain as much after cycle

Na brother no stretch marks, not yet at least. I can also say this is the heaviest I've ever been. I broke 200lbs once but got injured right after so I never held onto it. I also think I look leaner now at 207 than I did last year this time around 190-195 (attribute it to increased lbm). Thanks for the encouragement and support. I read about so many ppl in here complaining about weight gain or their cycles didn't give them expected results so I decided I won't waste my time, money, and health unless I do this right. Some of the weight is def water weight though, even with the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I have a high sodium diet and I'm drinking almost 3 gallons of water a day to stay hydrated at my job (physically demanding job with high temps).

Do you have a log on here? I should def check yours out if you do but regardless think of the potential gains you have and the sacrifices you've made so far and hit that all you can eat buffet line lmao. You have my sincere best wishes at finishing out this cycle like a fucking beast!!

 

[halfwit]

Half, man why do we always talk about this stuff it seems like lol?! I can only imagine what it's like by you in that warm weather on campus. It gets really cold by me in the winter so those little college coeds bundle up but it's always fun stripping them back down lmao. I want to wait and see the final results of my cycle (especially a few months after post cycle therapy (pct) ends) to see how I manage to keep my gains and what I feel like before deciding to do another cycle but with how I feel on test alone I don't know if I should ever try tren or test suspension. I'd probably fuck till my dick literally fell off, shit I may have to hire a personal assistant to just play with me all day as her sole job in life

Not gonna lie, the wife hides from me when I'm on a blast. She knows that if her tush bumps up against me in the middle of the night...it's GAME ON! There's this little bridge by my campus that I and a few friends like to hang out at after morning classes and shoot the shit. Starting in about late April, we can see those skirts/shorts creeping up and the cleavage starts to jump out. I swear if a stiff breeze kicked in they'd know how much I appreciate their choice in clothing.

 

[Metalhead]

Na brother no stretch marks, not yet at least. I can also say this is the heaviest I've ever been. I broke 200lbs once but got injured right after so I never held onto it. I also think I look leaner now at 207 than I did last year this time around 190-195 (attribute it to increased lbm). Thanks for the encouragement and support. I read about so many ppl in here complaining about weight gain or their cycles didn't give them expected results so I decided I won't waste my time, money, and health unless I do this right. Some of the weight is def water weight though, even with the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I have a high sodium diet and I'm drinking almost 3 gallons of water a day to stay hydrated at my job (physically demanding job with high temps).

Do you have a log on here? I should def check yours out if you do but regardless think of the potential gains you have and the sacrifices you've made so far and hit that all you can eat buffet line lmao. You have my sincere best wishes at finishing out this cycle like a fucking beast!!

thanks brother. No i dont have a log on here. I figured there were enough test logs on here, but after 3 weeks decided i wanted more so jumped on deca after doing a shit ton of research of course. Started at 210lbs, now 10 weekks in, sitting at 227 as soon as i wake up and fluctuate about 5 lbs higher throughout the day. been eating 4k cals, based off a diet i had started with 3j.best money spent honestly. I seriously eat healthier than ever now but in mass quantities. Completely baffles my coworkers. Keep it up brother and get the bloodwork when you can. my t levels were 4431 at week 8. I was stoked about that

 

[Docd187]

thanks brother. No i dont have a log on here. I figured there were enough test logs on here, but after 3 weeks decided i wanted more so jumped on deca after doing a shit ton of research of course. Started at 210lbs, now 10 weekks in, sitting at 227 as soon as i wake up and fluctuate about 5 lbs higher throughout the day. been eating 4k cals, based off a diet i had started with 3j.best money spent honestly. I seriously eat healthier than ever now but in mass quantities. Completely baffles my coworkers. Keep it up brother and get the bloodwork when you can. my t levels were 4431 at week 8. I was stoked about that

I've got a 3J diet I got a year or two ago before I cycled. It worked great but the kinda person I am I want to learn things on my own so I studied up nutrition learned the basics and have a pretty good working knowledge. Now if my desire to get shredded comes back any time soon I will def hit him up again as getting to single digit BF % is extremely difficult and he does have experience on his side.

It doesn't matter if you're test only or test and deca now, I suggest to start a log that way it helps your accountability and provides a modicum of motivation at the least. Plus you're a great bro and it would make it easier to follow your progress than to have to keep pm'ing your ass lmfao!! I got pre-cycle bloods if you noticed and will def get another post cycle and plan on getting one mid-cycle around wk 9-10. I went through privatelabs and their ranges only go up to 1500?! How do you get the real number you're at not just >1500?!!!! HOLY BATSHIT GONE CRAZY that is some high as fuck serum test levels, my natty was 497

 

[Docd187]

Not gonna lie, the wife hides from me when I'm on a blast. She knows that if her tush bumps up against me in the middle of the night...it's GAME ON! There's this little bridge by my campus that I and a few friends like to hang out at after morning classes and shoot the shit. Starting in about late April, we can see those skirts/shorts creeping up and the cleavage starts to jump out. I swear if a stiff breeze kicked in they'd know how much I appreciate their choice in clothing.

Lmao, I'm picturing your wife cowering in fear under the table screaming "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHY WILL THAT THING NOT STAY DOWN!!!!! My schools got 2 campuses so theirs always girls at either but the main campus has all the sorority dorms and what not and the girls play frisbee and do gymnastics and shit outside. I swear to God the last week of school I've had to walk around feeling self-conscious that I have an Iroquois long tent teepee sticking out of my pants plus now that I'm single again it means my campus is no longer safe

 

[Metalhead]

I've got a 3J diet I got a year or two ago before I cycled. It worked great but the kinda person I am I want to learn things on my own so I studied up nutrition learned the basics and have a pretty good working knowledge. Now if my desire to get shredded comes back any time soon I will def hit him up again as getting to single digit BF % is extremely difficult and he does have experience on his side.

It doesn't matter if you're test only or test and deca now, I suggest to start a log that way it helps your accountability and provides a modicum of motivation at the least. Plus you're a great bro and it would make it easier to follow your progress than to have to keep pm'ing your ass lmfao!! I got pre-cycle bloods if you noticed and will def get another post cycle and plan on getting one mid-cycle around wk 9-10. I went through privatelabs and their ranges only go up to 1500?! How do you get the real number you're at not just >1500?!!!! HOLY BATSHIT GONE CRAZY that is some high as fuck serum test levels, my natty was 497

i'll just chalk this one up and do a log on the next one which im about 100% will be prop and trenny tren tren. Fucking stoked for that but i have a feeling my woman is gonna fucking hate me lol i got lucky getting the real number on the t levels. I was shocked personally. Just sucked getting it done because the woman was curious why she was checking my estradiol and gave me a description of the fsh and how it works lol i wish i had gotten levels checked beforehand, but lesson learned

 

[Ocdude]

i'll just chalk this one up and do a log on the next one which im about 100% will be prop and trenny tren tren. Fucking stoked for that but i have a feeling my woman is gonna fucking hate me lol i got lucky getting the real number on the t levels. I was shocked personally. Just sucked getting it done because the woman was curious why she was checking my estradiol and gave me a description of the fsh and how it works lol i wish i had gotten levels checked beforehand, but lesson learned

Hahaha all I ever got back was HIGH for my level. Apparently they have to dilute the serum to get the real number which I'm guessing becomes a factor of the diluted number.... I have a Lab friend I need to ask!!
Makes you wander... They can come up with a home test for blood sugar, why not test?!

 

[Docd187]

Well I definitely need some opinions and advice on a problem I've ran into so anyone feel free to chime in. I'll start with changes and symptoms and then give my thoughts but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong:

This Saturday 5/11/2013 I took my first clen and t3 dose before heading to the gym (also took 1g taurine before and after WO to help with low back pumps). Had probably the most intense workout of my life to be honest. Pumps were ridiculous, sweating like crazy, lifts seemed smooth and almost effortless, etc. all in all a very tough but great workout. After the gym I had 2scoops (44g) whey and a granola bar. After that I didn't have the chance to eat or drink anything for at least 8hrs. When I finally got home I made sure to take in my remaining macros so the day ended with me meeting them but I did go a significant length of time without food or water and like I said, it was a really intense workout and I lost a lot of water through sweating. I did drink around 2.5L of water DURING the workout though.

Fast forward to Sunday and today: my whole body is extremely sore to the point I've never felt this type of soreness. My joints ache slightly, my muscles feel weak and almost like they hurt, I'm cramping A LOT (have gotten cramps in places I've never cramped before and very very often), I feel somewhat sluggish, and I'm feeling thirsty all day last two days.

I think it's either the clen/t3, dehydration, or I touched upon overreaching/overtraining. Now for the overreaching/training, this workout program is not new to me and the weights I used I've done years ago in the past. I have been getting real shitty sleep last 2wks or so averaging 4-5hrs most nights so that might have helped add to it but again I've done these workouts and weights before. As to the dehydration I thought so bc I sweat like during the workout and my shirt was thoroughly soaked front and back. This could be due to the addition of clen but I always sweat since I think 70deg is hot weather lol (cold weather guy). I did drink around 2.5L of water during the workout and have been averaging 2.5-3gallons water daily. My urinations are coming out yellow but I take a split multi vitamin so that's probably why. The last thing I can think of is the clen/t3 combo which would make sense for the sweating, hot flashes, and whatnot but would that cause cramping, extreme muscle soreness, and achy joints? Anyone with any thoughts?


*edit To anyone that helps I thank you and can offer you some great FAP material as repayment. Halfwit I know your dirty old self would love this bro so get in here lmao. Her name is Suzanne Svanevik and yes she's legal (just barely though). Who said crossfit doesn't have it's uses?




[video]http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=uO_jfEk-adw&feature=related[/video]

 

[halfwit]

Electrolytes are probably low from the additional sweating caused by the T3/Clen. I'd pick up some magnesium/potassium and add a TOUCH of iodized salt to your diet. Should only take a few days to see if this helps. GIMME DAT BARELY LEGAL SHIZ!

Edit: I forgot to mention, you want to take upwards of 4g of taurine on clen. Stuff eats it out of your body like crazy!

 

[Docd187]

Electrolytes are probably low from the additional sweating caused by the T3/Clen. I'd pick up some magnesium/potassium and add a TOUCH of iodized salt to your diet. Should only take a few days to see if this helps. GIMME DAT BARELY LEGAL SHIZ!

My diets already high in sodium (I put salt in EVERYTHING lol). I had a couple bananas today which should help with potassium and my multis are both packed with them. I'll probably pick up a few Gatorades and see if those help. Vitamin shop only had 500mg capsules in stock those fuckers! think ill order some powder online if they even sell it in powder form. Thanks for the help brother. Did you see the link and the embedded video??! That's your reward my man!! Enjoy it I know I sure did lmfao

You're extremely quick to respond whenever I put your name in a post.... You either have a lot of unbridled bHrOMO love fore me or you can sense your name being beckoned for like the bat signal.

 

[halfwit]

My diets already high in sodium (I put salt in EVERYTHING lol). I had a couple bananas today which should help with potassium and my multis are both packed with them. I'll probably pick up a few Gatorades and see if those help. Vitamin shop only had 500mg capsules in stock those fuckers! think ill order some powder online if they even sell it in powder form. Thanks for the help brother. Did you see the link and the embedded video??! That's your reward my man!! Enjoy it I know I sure did lmfao

You're extremely quick to respond whenever I put your name in a post.... You either have a lot of unbridled bHrOMO love fore me or you can sense your name being beckoned for like the bat signal.

Haha, I wish it was some super power, just luck of the draw.

 

[GHpro]

Well I definitely need some opinions and advice on a problem I've ran into so anyone feel free to chime in. I'll start with changes and symptoms and then give my thoughts but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong:

This Saturday 5/11/2013 I took my first clen and t3 dose before heading to the gym (also took 1g taurine before and after WO to help with low back pumps). Had probably the most intense workout of my life to be honest. Pumps were ridiculous, sweating like crazy, lifts seemed smooth and almost effortless, etc. all in all a very tough but great workout. After the gym I had 2scoops (44g) whey and a granola bar. After that I didn't have the chance to eat or drink anything for at least 8hrs. When I finally got home I made sure to take in my remaining macros so the day ended with me meeting them but I did go a significant length of time without food or water and like I said, it was a really intense workout and I lost a lot of water through sweating. I did drink around 2.5L of water DURING the workout though.

Fast forward to Sunday and today: my whole body is extremely sore to the point I've never felt this type of soreness. My joints ache slightly, my muscles feel weak and almost like they hurt, I'm cramping A LOT (have gotten cramps in places I've never cramped before and very very often), I feel somewhat sluggish, and I'm feeling thirsty all day last two days.

I think it's either the clen/t3, dehydration, or I touched upon overreaching/overtraining. Now for the overreaching/training, this workout program is not new to me and the weights I used I've done years ago in the past. I have been getting real shitty sleep last 2wks or so averaging 4-5hrs most nights so that might have helped add to it but again I've done these workouts and weights before. As to the dehydration I thought so bc I sweat like during the workout and my shirt was thoroughly soaked front and back. This could be due to the addition of clen but I always sweat since I think 70deg is hot weather lol (cold weather guy). I did drink around 2.5L of water during the workout and have been averaging 2.5-3gallons water daily. My urinations are coming out yellow but I take a split multi vitamin so that's probably why. The last thing I can think of is the clen/t3 combo which would make sense for the sweating, hot flashes, and whatnot but would that cause cramping, extreme muscle soreness, and achy joints? Anyone with any thoughts?


*edit To anyone that helps I thank you and can offer you some great FAP material as repayment. Halfwit I know your dirty old self would love this bro so get in here lmao. Her name is Suzanne Svanevik and yes she's legal (just barely though). Who said crossfit doesn't have it's uses?




haha you will be fine man it's the clen doe's this to me every now and then. woke up sore as fark! muscle's all over my body hurting. don't be worried. gos away after a 1 or 2

 

[Docd187]

Haha, I wish it was some super power, just luck of the draw.

I'll just continue to believe you're superman's twin brother, makes it easier to sleep at night

 

[Docd187]

Well I definitely need some opinions and advice on a problem I've ran into so anyone feel free to chime in. I'll start with changes and symptoms and then give my thoughts but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong:

This Saturday 5/11/2013 I took my first clen and t3 dose before heading to the gym (also took 1g taurine before and after WO to help with low back pumps). Had probably the most intense workout of my life to be honest. Pumps were ridiculous, sweating like crazy, lifts seemed smooth and almost effortless, etc. all in all a very tough but great workout. After the gym I had 2scoops (44g) whey and a granola bar. After that I didn't have the chance to eat or drink anything for at least 8hrs. When I finally got home I made sure to take in my remaining macros so the day ended with me meeting them but I did go a significant length of time without food or water and like I said, it was a really intense workout and I lost a lot of water through sweating. I did drink around 2.5L of water DURING the workout though.

Fast forward to Sunday and today: my whole body is extremely sore to the point I've never felt this type of soreness. My joints ache slightly, my muscles feel weak and almost like they hurt, I'm cramping A LOT (have gotten cramps in places I've never cramped before and very very often), I feel somewhat sluggish, and I'm feeling thirsty all day last two days.

I think it's either the clen/t3, dehydration, or I touched upon overreaching/overtraining. Now for the overreaching/training, this workout program is not new to me and the weights I used I've done years ago in the past. I have been getting real shitty sleep last 2wks or so averaging 4-5hrs most nights so that might have helped add to it but again I've done these workouts and weights before. As to the dehydration I thought so bc I sweat like during the workout and my shirt was thoroughly soaked front and back. This could be due to the addition of clen but I always sweat since I think 70deg is hot weather lol (cold weather guy). I did drink around 2.5L of water during the workout and have been averaging 2.5-3gallons water daily. My urinations are coming out yellow but I take a split multi vitamin so that's probably why. The last thing I can think of is the clen/t3 combo which would make sense for the sweating, hot flashes, and whatnot but would that cause cramping, extreme muscle soreness, and achy joints? Anyone with any thoughts?


*edit To anyone that helps I thank you and can offer you some great FAP material as repayment. Halfwit I know your dirty old self would love this bro so get in here lmao. Her name is Suzanne Svanevik and yes she's legal (just barely though). Who said crossfit doesn't have it's uses?




haha you will be fine man it's the clen doe's this to me every now and then. woke up sore as fark! muscle's all over my body hurting. don't be worried. gos away after a 1 or 2

It's the first time I've used clen/t3 so had me worried it could've been something worse. Thanks for the tip though man. Since you helped out feel free to use the FAP material posted above. She's all yours lmao

 

[scottrebel]

Sounds like your making good gains. Keep us posted Bro.

 

[Docd187]

Sounds like your making good gains. Keep us posted Bro.

Thanks man! Yea I've gained almost 20lbs this far, strength is going up steadily, and i look almost the same bf% as I did at the beginning of the cycle (obviously fat has gone up but not as much as I had expected).

 

[Docd187]

One more thing, I just made an appointment to donate blood at the Red Cross for 5/16 is there anything I should tell them beforehand or just go in like normal?