I'm just at the tail end of 15 wk cycle. All Dragon Pharma first time using them, third overall cycle in 10 yrs. 2-(10ml) bottles of Test Cyp 250mg, 1-10ml of Deca 300mg, 1-10ml of Tren E 200mg. Started off pinning Mon 1ml Test- 1/2ml Deca...Thur 1/2 mlTest for first like 4-5 weeks then bumped deca to 1ml and test 2ml/wk When Deca finished, approx week 8, continued with 1ml Tren/ 1/2 test same syringe Mon, 1/2 ml Test on Thur. Now by week 4 of adding Tren....noticed bloaty look from test/deca disappear and became hard dry look. I was 126.5lbs, 1%bf, Now I'm 156lbs, and feel great. Tren sides were cold sweat insomnia nights for 2-3 weeks then subsided. This is my first time taking tren and researched the best way to add it to my cycle. I think it worked PERFECT. All bloat and water retention from deca/test disipated by tren, plus size and strength gains also complemented to big push in strength and more intense workout when tren kicked in, no more bar straps for lat pulldowns which i ALWAYS needed! Not anymore while on TREN my friend! LOL I hope this helps you!