DRvee or buffdoc- need some insight

house1

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well first things first.

i sleep like a champ from 9 till midnight and suddenly wake up and cant get back to sleep. sucks when i have to get up for work at 430 am. hurting my training , work , fuck everything. just plain tired.

has to be the tren or can it be from the t3?

is there something mild i can take to help me sleep?

any help would be much appreciated

second thing.

this morning about 330 am i could not sleep so i jumped on the wife:D . things were going well till i went to switch positions . suddenly junior died on me. [wtf] with a little help from the wife i got him going again but was not as hard as he usually is . i have noticed this as of late .

i have been running tren for a bit now. was running it byitself for like 8 weeks with no sexual probs. i just added cyp and t3 a little over 3 weeks ago. i figured with the cyp just starting to kick in i would be fine.

what gives? is it the tren? t3? up till this point i have had no probs ?

any help with this will be greatly appreciated.

man cant believe i just posted this:D
 
Its both actually.

The tren can cause disruptions in sleep patterns, combined with night sweats and nightmares (in some cases)

The t3 has raised your bodies metabolism thus making the body run harder and faster (increased baseline heart rate, bp might be slightly elevated, breathing) thus adding to the tren effects and causing you sleep problems

my suggestion would be Valerian Root Extract or Kava Kava leaning more toward the Valerian root because kava kava has been shown in several studies to impact liver function and may even be liver toxic....

as far as the sex stuff..enter Fina Dick. :D use Cialis.
 
T3 keeps me up too.....I always make sure I am doing more test than tren.....


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natty said:
Its both actually.

The tren can cause disruptions in sleep patterns, combined with night sweats and nightmares (in some cases)

The t3 has raised your bodies metabolism thus making the body run harder and faster (increased baseline heart rate, bp might be slightly elevated, breathing) thus adding to the tren effects and causing you sleep problems

my suggestion would be Valerian Root Extract or Kava Kava leaning more toward the Valerian root because kava kava has been shown in several studies to impact liver function and may even be liver toxic....

as far as the sex stuff..enter Fina Dick. :D use Cialis.

Well....I'd say Natty nailed it!!! Props Natty you smart MOFO.

Kava is great and potent, especially when combined with Valerian Root. The reports regarding toxicity levels are somewhat ambiguous and obscure. I have read supporting and opposing data on this.

Add Skull Cap, Passion Flower, and Hops to the cocktail above and you'll be sleeping like a baby.

Try these out...keep us posted. ;)
 
Yoiu can also check out a product called P-Seven. Run a search on it @ Elite. Seems to be a 50/50 success rate counting all the bullshitters.
 
Great reply Natty! Couldn't have said it any better.

As for P-seven...didn't do a thing for me. The other products I've used from Ulter are very good.
 
bigdelt69 said:
One word.....trazadone....

Yea, trazadone may be able to take care of both of your problems. Although I always thought the sexual effect was an all or nothing deal: you either do not get any effect at all, or you get priapism. Is that true, or can you just get a temporary boost? I tried it only once, but I don't think I took enough because it didn't do anything for me (didn't even make me sleepy).
 
I had problem w/ sleep when on Tren myself.....didn't do anything about it.....but now I will next time..lol
 
Ambien or Xanax will work wonders for your lack of sleep problem. I do not reccommend using these drugs more than 1 - 3 times a week. Only use them when on a cycle too. Off cycle your sleep patterns 'should' normalize in matter of a few days to a couple of weeks depending on what kind AS you used. Prescription sleep aids and anti-anxiety drugs (Xanax is actually an anti-anxiety drug, but it will do wonders for your sleep) can be addictive for many and you will very quickly build a tolerance with frequent use.

Of course try the above OTC product suggestions first. They are great suggestions and very good products. Never use a prescription sleep aid unless it is absolutely necessary and if lack of sleep is hurting your workouts, mass gaining and most importantly your job performance .

I have to say take my advice ONLY as a last resort to combat your lack of sleep problem.
 
Tren gave me nightmares. Really bad ones actually. I would dream of people i loved (such as my parents or gf) telling me i was worthless, and that i meant nothing to them. I would dream of my girl telling me that i was garbage, and that she was ashamed of me. Really would fuck my day up. I also had problems sleeping when i didnt have nightmares. My best advice on the sleep issue is this....
Go to eckerds and buy some unisom. GFewt the kind that has the active ingredient Docalimine succinate. You will sleep like a rock, and not feel groggy. Best of luck man.
 
House

You can also try some L-Trypto from biochemicals.com, and it's not the kind "cut" with 5-HTP. There is also Deep Sleep from Herbs Ect, an herbalist swears by it but haven't tried it myself yet but will be as you can see from the timing of this post, my patterns are all jacked and I'm not even on cycle.

As for junior, yep on the Cilias or even some Bromo. Good luck bro.
 
Bro, dont go with Xanax or any other benzo for that matter. They wont put you into the deep stages of sleep that you need for proper recovery. When you take a benzo it keeps you 'hovering' so to say, and wont let you drift off into a deep sleep. Take it from someone who has battled chronic insomina for years. Start with p-7.
 
guys i really appreciate all the responses. its why i love this place so much.

will try the p 7

and cilias here i come lol

thanks again everyone
 
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