Dumb friend did not take anything for pct!

[Everhard]

My dumb friend and really it is not me. Just ran a 4 week cycle of super dmz and than a 8 week cycle of epistante at 50 mg a day, the dmz was 20 mg I think. I have ran same cycle with no side effects but one thing I knew to do was have my pct ready well he did not.
Im pretty sure he will lose what he gained, he just ordered some clomid but will take couple weeks to get here. So how long before his test levels start to return to normal if he did not even use clomid?

 

[cybrsage]

Who knows, they may never return to normal without help. That is why PCT is so vital.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Who knows, they may never return to normal without help. That is why PCT is so vital.

This ^^^^^

However lets get something straight about gains, holding and or losing.
Anyone who trains with or without AAS or any supplements and gains / builds MM can and will hold those gains if they CONTINUE to eat and train hard. True muscle mass is true muscle mass.

Continue to eat and train at a high intensity and the muscle mass can be retained. A technicality that is so easily misunderstood because seldom do people continue to keep the intensity and consistency.

Just saying

 

[3J]

you gotta learn the hard way some times

 

[49ER]

Does your friend call himself everhard?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Does your friend call himself everhard?

^^^^

 

[BigSwolenPussy]

Does your friend call himself everhard?

Fuck! You said it before I could LMAO

 

[Supernatural2015]

This ^^^^^

However lets get something straight about gains, holding and or losing.
Anyone who trains with or without AAS or any supplements and gains / builds MM can and will hold those gains if they CONTINUE to eat and train hard. True muscle mass is true muscle mass.

Continue to eat and train at a high intensity and the muscle mass can be retained. A technicality that is so easily misunderstood because seldom do people continue to keep the intensity and consistency.

Just saying

Question... some guys say lighten the load when you start the pct because your test is low and you aren't able to recover at normal levels yet, yet others say hit it hard as your able to trigger your body to compensate...

What is your take? I'm still a noob on this stuff just experimenting as I go so it's a genuine question I have.

 

[Megatron28]

I love the "friend" threads. You are anonymous here. You don't have to hide behind your "friend".