Back in the old days I was cycling m1t 10-20mg ED 15 days on 15 days off, drinking at least once a week (getting drunk) sometime 2-3x/week, no post cycle therapy (pct) nothing, then last oral only was Anavar (var) @ 40mg ED & epistane 30mg ED for 5 weeks both, after 2-3 weeks I was completely shut down and sleeping 10-12hrs in 24hrs always tired, lost size, strength & sex drive with that shit. Anavar (var) is great with test as a base, combine Anavar (var) with epi or another oral and its worthless! I learned big time from that, did some research and my Anavar (var) guy ended up selling test too. So I got some and BOOM started to gain mass on a daily basis.