Emotional side effects from Clomid vs crashing estradiol

[Gainjin260]

Currently on hcg 2000iu 3/wk (upping to 3000iu 3/wk next week)

Current test level
270 ng/dL (249 - 836 ng/dL)

Goal is to get testicular biopsy to check for sperm (non in ejeculation)

Doc wants t levels above 300 for 2 months pre surgery. Recommended 1mg Adex everyday. I told him I was uncomfortable crashing my estradiol levels, so he put me back on Clomid, which I had taken for 2.5 years previously. At the end of that time I was a wreck physically and emotionally.

I've been taking Clomid 25mg ed for a week. Today it hit me like a freight train: can't stop ruminating on everything negative in my life, no patience or emotional reserves, no appetite. I feel awful. I had to leave my wife and her family on their own to visit a friend tonight because our adopted 2 year old was screaming and crying and I wanted to hit her- instead I broke down crying.

I'm not sure I can take this (Clomid) for 2 months. Everything I've read tells me that 1mg Adex ed would surely make me feel like shit as well. Thoughts?

I've read proviron can raise test and promote fertility- can anyone speak to this?

Right now I feel like giving up on a biological child, but I know some of that is selfishly wanted to get back on cycle/TRT for gym gains.

Please help.

 

[Gainjin260]

Bump

 

[blakey]

Bump

Wish I could be of more help sorry to hear about your situation but yeah your right 1mg of adex ed seems very high imo

 

[Gainjin260]

Seems crazy, right? Doc said most guys report no ill effects.

My doc is head of fertility at an Ivy Leauge college hospital, but somehow I trust the knowledge of this board over his.

 

[blakey]

Seems crazy, right? Doc said most guys report no ill effects.

My doc is head of fertility at an Ivy Leauge college hospital, but somehow I trust the knowledge of this board over his.

Yeah man 1mg daily is a massive dose crazy for sure
I was taking 0.35mg daily while on ment which aromatises like crazy and converts to e7 and that's like 5 times stronger than normal e2
Imo if you started taking 1 mg daily you would crash your e2 in no time and probably feel worse than you do now with the clomid but I'm certainly not a doctor maybe he knows something we don't??? Especially if he's head doc of fertility at an Ivy League hospital tough spot your in

 

[Old Duffer]

Yeah, I got nothing helpful here except stay strong and know that some old effer you've never met, on some crazy anonymous forum, is thinking about you and worried about your situation.

Definitely talk to your doc.

 

[Therealkozmo]

I would put money on the adex crushing your e2 and you feeling a lot worse

 

[49ER]

Why is everyone one so scared to crash e2 ive crashed mine several times and didnt even know till i went to get blood work its not that bad. Now this is all hear say but i know someone who suspects clomid gave him a stroke. Ive never trusted that stuff..... And why cant you take less than 1mg ed? Crashed estro is not the end of the world mine was like at 4 last time lol

 

[Therealkozmo]

funny no one in this thread mentioned being scared. Some people actually care more about health then gains

 

[49ER]

funny no one in this thread mentioned being scared. Some people actually care more about health then gains

So wanting to abandon his kid and his other symptoms is ok? Gains? What gaims is he gonna make on shitty test levels hes at? Im talkimg about stopping the Clomid

 

[tx045]

Is your sole purpose fertility? If you aren't on any gear or trt the adex will not crash your e2 if your hpta is functioning properly. It'll raise your testosterone and ai monotherapy is a pretty common practice

 

[Therealkozmo]

So wanting to abandon his kid and his other symptoms is ok? Gains? What gaims is he gonna make on shitty test levels hes at? Im talkimg about stopping the Clomid

I don't understand why he is on hcg and clomid. Hcg is suppressive of lh. not a good combo. no gains with low test

 

[49ER]

I don't understand why he is on hcg and clomid. Hcg is suppressive of lh. not a good combo. no gains with low test

I always read responses wrong lol i thougbt you were saying it to me.... Never mind cant even explain what i thought lol

 

[tx045]

I don't understand why he is on hcg and clomid. Hcg is suppressive of lh. not a good combo. no gains with low test

True...you should blast hcg before you start the clomid

 

[Therealkozmo]

I always read responses wrong lol i thougbt you were saying it to me.... Never mind cant even explain what i thought lol

I was saying that nobody mentioned fear of crashing e2 to you. I have crashed it and it sucks. You say you never felt symptoms of crashed e2 but had it. Well that would be cool. I happen to experience symptoms easily on both edges of the e2 and can tell now by symptomology. And yes you must be some kind of alien because your body needs estrogen to function so I am surprised you haven't felt any symptoms