Enough with the taboo shit on Dianabol cycles

bigjay00 said:
$100 per cycle and a liver transplant opposed to $500 per cycle with maybe some hair loss.

Oh and if you think taking 10 milligrams of dbol per day for 6 weeks is going to result in liver failure there is really no point in debating with you any more.

I assume you think that 50 milligrams for 4 weeks is much, much safer.
 
Doing a 4 week Dbol cycle is no worse than all of my friends going out and getting trashed 3 or 4 times a week. There is so much hype to the toxicity of this shit that you'd think we were swallowing mercury. If you dont like it, dont recommend it. Not everyone is on the same playing field here, nor do they want to be.
 
i used d-bol only cycle b4 and i keep most of my gains...(20mg 6 week)

and putting on 10lbs is not bad at all....when you hit your natural max weight


i think if you took 50mg a day for six week ...and gain 20lbs that is too fast of a weight gain to keep...my 2 cents
 
bigjay00 said:
In my opinion...It's not just the appearance issuse it's also the health...it's 17-alpha-alkylated thus being harsh on your liver...Too long of a cycle could possibly lead to internal bleeding
i am not advocating a dbol only cycle but hes talking about 10 mg a day for 6 weeks it was more of a bridge than a cycle and 10 mgs of dbol a day is less harsh on your liver than a couple of extra strength tylenol a day
 
bigjay00 said:
$100 per cycle and a liver transplant opposed to $500 per cycle with maybe some hair loss.
you are really exagerating the liver damage from orals , drinking alcohol or over the counter pain meds are just as harmful to your liver as dbol and maybe more harmful if your a big drinker or take tylenol etc. daily .for me the only blood work to ever show liver trouble didnt come from a cycle it was cold and flu meds with tylenol when i was sick for a week or so straight , this isnt second hand info or experiments run on post menopausal women this is a fact that i know . i have had blood work run routinely with cycles and blood work was fine , but 1 week of over the counter meds caused elevated liver enzymes
 
I think almost any compund by itself can be effective. I have heard plenty of people advise against EQ only cycles,anavar only cycles etc. In regards to training any of these by themselves will greatly enhance your ability to gain muscle mass due to strength increases, I hear many of you thinking now (strength has nothing to do with muscle gain) Wrong. Intensity is one of the key factors to gaining muscle and getting passed plateus and intensity can be increased several ways. 1. Decrease rest between sets 2. Increased reps 3. Increased sets 4. Supersets,dropsets etc 5. And finally increase in weight. There are many others but isn't it funny how are best gains are made around the biggest increases in weight. I know my training log EVERYDAY for the past two years doesn't lie with the gains I have made.
 
I don't see how 10mg a day of Dbol can even be considered a cycle, no matter for how long. There only about 6 possible hours in that day that you hormone levels can be elevated. Good for not shutting down I suppose, but IMO the results are more of a placebo effect than anything else. Fluctuating hormone levels that are caused by doing an oral only cycle can never match the steadier blood levels brought about by injections. What's with all the bickering about this, anyway. If someone wants to do a cycle from 1971 than be my guest, but not for me!
 
Stone said:
I don't see how 10mg a day of Dbol can even be considered a cycle, no matter for how long. There only about 6 possible hours in that day that you hormone levels can be elevated. Good for not shutting down I suppose, but IMO the results are more of a placebo effect than anything else. Fluctuating hormone levels that are caused by doing an oral only cycle can never match the steadier blood levels brought about by injections. What's with all the bickering about this, anyway. If someone wants to do a cycle from 1971 than be my guest, but not for me!

So, nobody in 1971 was big or looked good by your standards?
 
although i am a HUGE REPUBULICAN, and i hate democrats as much as i hate terrorists i have to disagree with u bro

the main reason not to do that as a 1st cycle is b/c ur 1st cycle is ALWAYS gonna give u the best gains if u do it right. so dont waste ur 1st cycle guys... why gain 10lbs when u can gain 25 all day on dbol, test, and deca????
 
ANOINTED said:
although i am a HUGE REPUBULICAN, and i hate democrats as much as i hate terrorists i have to disagree with u bro

the main reason not to do that as a 1st cycle is b/c ur 1st cycle is ALWAYS gonna give u the best gains if u do it right. so dont waste ur 1st cycle guys... why gain 10lbs when u can gain 25 all day on dbol, test, and deca????

Hey, Im not a democrat so I wont chastize you for not thinking the way I do.;)

I was not suggesting this as the standard first cycle. The point of this topic was to try and change the bogus mentality that just because people choose to no longer perform dianabol only cycles does not mean that they are not effective.
 
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