Erectile dysfunction after stopped using tren

[Megatron28]

I reduced it coz i thought it was too much for only 350 test, it was .5 while on tren coz i was terrified of prolactin side effects wich i read come from high estrogen. So whats ur advice, get back on .5 adex? Come back with the tren for 2-3 more weeks and stop both? Cialis?

Thank you

Well, if you are using Tren this surely can't be your first cycle. So you should have experience to know how much AI you need to use for a given Test dose. You must have decided to use .50mg of Adex because that is what worked for you in the past on 350mg of test and blood work confirmed that. So given all that I don't understand why you would change your Adex dose when everything was working fine.

Do you know that Tren does not aromatize?

My advice... I think you are too inexperienced to be cycling with multiple compounds. I recommend coming off everything immediately so you can begin the PCT phase as soon as it all clears.

P.S. In Post #14 I gave you a cialis recommendation.

 

[ctm86]

Well, if you are using Tren this surely can't be your first cycle. So you should have experience to know how much AI you need to use for a given Test dose. You must have decided to use .50mg of Adex because that is what worked for you in the past on 350mg of test and blood work confirmed that. So given all that I don't understand why you would change your Adex dose when everything was working fine.

Do you know that Tren does not aromatize?

My advice... I think you are too inexperienced to be cycling with multiple compounds. I recommend coming off everything immediately so you can begin the PCT phase as soon as it all clears.

P.S. In Post #14 I gave you a cialis recommendation.

Of course i know tren does not aromatize, and its my 3rd cycle, i meant i was afraid of prolactin effects from high estro so thas why the .5 adex. Actually my last cycle was 750 mg test e and honestly i didnt use an AI at all and everything worked perfect.

 

[Megatron28]

Of course i know tren does not aromatize, and its my 3rd cycle, i meant i was afraid of prolactin effects from high estro so thas why the .5 adex. Actually my last cycle was 750 mg test e and honestly i didnt use an AI at all and everything worked perfect.

So at roughly half the test dose you definitely should not need an AI. Where was your E2 at on 750mg of test with no AI?

 

[ctm86]

So at roughly half the test dose you definitely should not need an AI. Where was your E2 at on 750mg of test with no AI?

Honestlty didnt check, but had no signs of gyno or bloat, sex drive was great and everything, maybe i crashed my estro with so much AI. Cant wait to get bloods done and see whats goin on coz this is driving me crazy.

Even tho in the last week i dropped the tren and reduced calories by almost 700, i feel great in the gym, strenght is still the same, and aggresion too.

 

[Megatron28]

So for anyone else reading this thread who is trying to learn about running AAS, please note that OP has terribly botched things and now his penis isn't working. He failed to learn anything from previous cycles by never getting blood work or going through a systematic process. He let fear and lack of knowledge cause him to make several poor decisions along the way too. Don't be like OP. Make sure you learn from each cycle you run so that you can employee that knowledge in future cycles. Don't cycle haphazardly -- especially with Tren!

 

[whoremoan]

mega i dont see how he botched that cycle at all????i would not have chose the same decisions he did but i still dont think he fucked up that bad to be made an example of..like cmon m8 i thought the mods here were alright.. but thats low ,, when i first cycled i had literally years of research under my belt.... and you know what? the research did not help half as much as trial and error/learning ones body.. with all the new research coming out these days; its very evident no1 has any f#CKING IDEA! look at nolva these days... ppl in the 80s/90s would be saying never cycle without nolva! but now its like never cycle with nolva! ... truth is were all lab rats! if everyone could just pick up a book on steroids and 'research' all the CORRECT answers to our bodies, wed all be mr olympias

 

[Megatron28]

mega i dont see how he botched that cycle at all????i would not have chose the same decisions he did but i still dont think he fucked up that bad to be made an example of..like cmon m8 i thought the mods here were alright.. but thats low ,, when i first cycled i had literally years of research under my belt.... and you know what? the research did not help half as much as trial and error/learning ones body.. with all the new research coming out these days; its very evident no1 has any f#CKING IDEA! look at nolva these days... ppl in the 80s/90s would be saying never cycle without nolva! but now its like never cycle with nolva! ... truth is were all lab rats! if everyone could just pick up a book on steroids and 'research' all the CORRECT answers to our bodies, wed all be mr olympias

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I appreciate the feedback.

I am looking forward to reading your advice in this thread and others.

 

[halfwit]

mega i dont see how he botched that cycle at all????i would not have chose the same decisions he did but i still dont think he fucked up that bad to be made an example of..like cmon m8 i thought the mods here were alright.. but thats low ,, when i first cycled i had literally years of research under my belt.... and you know what? the research did not help half as much as trial and error/learning ones body.. with all the new research coming out these days; its very evident no1 has any f#CKING IDEA! look at nolva these days... ppl in the 80s/90s would be saying never cycle without nolva! but now its like never cycle with nolva! ... truth is were all lab rats! if everyone could just pick up a book on steroids and 'research' all the CORRECT answers to our bodies, wed all be mr olympias

Waitasec, you're blasting Tron for helping someone that did it wrong, then pointing out the potential consequences of such?

Really?

What you fail to recognize is that there are TWO sides to the equation here; practical applicable knowledge AND experience. You realize why nolva was recommended back in the 90's? Because the use of AIs wasn't widely known or used, not because everyone was just dumb and read it/heard of it.

Trial and error (experience) comes into play with certain facets of cycling - like finding the appropriate AI dose, or IF you need a dopamine agonist. Not, "Hey, I don't have boobies growing, so screw the use of an AI". Appropriate research would demonstrate to a newer user that estradiol is responsible for a TREMENDOUS amount of issues that can potentially pop up at the least opportune time, probably something that we should all be aware of BEFORE we go plunging that needle into our bodies, no?

If you truly think that just knowing the answers gives the ability to compete AND take home an Olympia title, YOU have more reading to do.

... And a reality check.

My .02c

 

[whoremoan]

Waitasec, you're blasting Tron for helping someone that did it wrong, then pointing out the potential consequences of such?

Really?

What you fail to recognize is that there are TWO sides to the equation here; practical applicable knowledge AND experience. You realize why nolva was recommended back in the 90's? Because the use of AIs wasn't widely known or used, not because everyone was just dumb and read it/heard of it.

Trial and error (experience) comes into play with certain facets of cycling - like finding the appropriate AI dose, or IF you need a dopamine agonist. Not, "Hey, I don't have boobies growing, so screw the use of an AI". Appropriate research would demonstrate to a newer user that estradiol is responsible for a TREMENDOUS amount of issues that can potentially pop up at the least opportune time, probably something that we should all be aware of BEFORE we go plunging that needle into our bodies, no?

If you truly think that just knowing the answers gives the ability to compete AND take home an Olympia title, YOU have more reading to do.

... And a reality check.

My .02c

not blasting at all, i meant just making an example isnt cool from mega, the guy obviously had done hes research , im more saying forums are a place to come to where its like 'hey ive learnt this and tried it and it didnt work, why not and what is going on ?" ... and people with years upon research still have fuck ups where they think "wtf is happening" im sure its happened to mega himself.... its just not cool to make an example of someone thats clearly asking for help

gotta hand it to you for taking it in stride though mega

but truth is, no matter what research weyve done, doing what the guy next to you PROBABLY wont work .. aromatization rates will of course be different person to person

so this guy trying to find hes sweet spot with an AI is a good idea! too bad he didnt find it - but after trial error/numerous blood/SALIVA TESTS (!!!) you will get it mate!

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

not blasting at all, i meant just making an example isnt cool from mega, the guy obviously had done hes research , im more saying forums are a place to come to where its like 'hey ive learnt this and tried it and it didnt work, why not and what is going on ?" ... and people with years upon research still have fuck ups where they think "wtf is happening" im sure its happened to mega himself.... its just not cool to make an example of someone thats clearly asking for help

gotta hand it to you for taking it in stride though mega

but truth is, no matter what research weyve done, doing what the guy next to you PROBABLY wont work .. aromatization rates will of course be different person to person

so this guy trying to find hes sweet spot with an AI is a good idea! too bad he didnt find it - but after trial error/numerous blood/SALIVA TESTS (!!!) you will get it mate!

So your totally off base. We aren't learning new things every day about cycling. We have known what's what for a long time. The thing that has changed this the avaibility of Dr prescribed meds and the access to blood tests.

Trial and error is not something anyone should be doing with meds that can kill you.