existing gyno treatment

[tuff oldy]

Brief history:
3 years ago I did a cycle of test(sust) and deca. started to get itchy nipples mid cycle and stopped the dec. kept taking test and started taking clomid as well. finished cycle short as gyno kept coming. Couldnt get hold of letro so kept on with clomid.
Gyno never subsided.
remains tender to this day ( some days worse than others) actually still get tingly feeling. There is a small lump deep in chest. but mainly fatty tissue making my chest a little pointy.

Anyway I never thought there was much I could do. But read there are possibilities even if slight that letro could work.

I went to see doctor and he got my hormones tested. All came back clear. He said to go and get an ultra sound and we probably could start on test injections.

It kind of shocked me because I thought that would make it worse.

I have read of test being used for lowering estro to help gyno. but not much. My doctor seems like he really does want to help which is good. I think he is open to suggestion or discussion. Should I suggest using letro with the test or scrap test all together.

Or I could pay $ to see a HRT specialist.

 

[mdella89]

If the problem you have is gyno.. then letro is what you want, start at 0.25 and work up to a maximum dose of 2.5 until you feel the lump go away and slowly taper it back down

 

[tuff oldy]

If the problem you have is gyno.. then letro is what you want, start at 0.25 and work up to a maximum dose of 2.5 until you feel the lump go away and slowly taper it back down

Will the letro work if he also gives me small amounts of test?

 

[mdella89]

test is only going to make gyno worse coz of the conversion to estrogen. this doctor has no idea what he is doing.

letro that shit, it will go away. period

 

[tuff oldy]

test is only going to make gyno worse coz of the conversion to estrogen. this doctor has no idea what he is doing.

letro that shit, it will go away. period

NP, thanks. Only reason I asked is because I thought letro stops most estro. and gives bad side effects. So if the doc gave test and letro would it get rid of etrogen while keeping away the fatigue which is a side effect of letro.

Also since I may have found a doc so willing to help. If the letro works can I go on to hrt or will that return the gyno?

 

[mdella89]

Letro will kill most estrogen, adding external testosterone will do nothing for your gyno, it is the reason why you have it.

is his reasoning on giving you testosterone to help get rid of the gyno? if thats the case thats wrong.

Are you planning on going on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)? how old are you

 

[mdella89]

On HRT doses, you shouldnt have an issue with gyno, any more than that then you will have to get bloods done to know. if you plan on blasting whilst on HRT use anti estrogens like any other cycle until you get back down to your normal HRT dose

 

[tuff oldy]

Letro will kill most estrogen, adding external testosterone will do nothing for your gyno, it is the reason why you have it.

is his reasoning on giving you testosterone to help get rid of the gyno? if thats the case thats wrong.

Are you planning on going on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)? how old are you

k, some more info.
I have been training MMA for quite some time now and feel age catching up.
With the gyno flaring up I figured it could have been because of high estro. Thats the reason I went. Hoping to fix gyno and help my energy levels.
So after the tests the doc says my levels are fine. but still suggests giving me test. Which I am quite happy about as test will help my energy levels and I hope to get in a couple fights next year. I am 39 years old so time running out.
But I was surprised because as far as I knew test was a bad thing for gyno.

So I guess I am hoping to to have my cake and eat it too.

 

[tuff oldy]

As far as I know letro will zap my energy and strength. Which could make me useless at training for a long period. But if thats the only way to get rid of the gyno thats what I will do.

 

[mdella89]

k, some more info.
I have been training MMA for quite some time now and feel age catching up.
With the gyno flaring up I figured it could have been because of high estro. Thats the reason I went. Hoping to fix gyno and help my energy levels.
So after the tests the doc says my levels are fine. but still suggests giving me test. Which I am quite happy about as test will help my energy levels and I hope to get in a couple fights next year. I am 39 years old so time running out.
But I was surprised because as far as I knew test was a bad thing for gyno.

So I guess I am hoping to to have my cake and eat it too.

If you have good natural levels of test, i dont suggest going on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). once you make that descision there is no going back after a certain point.

So i would suggest just getting the letro and gradually easing up to a dose of 2.5mg a day until the gyno is gone and then slowly taper it back down and come off.

I would look at your diet, you may have foods that you dont actually know your intollerant to that could be fucking up your energy levels. Get some alergy tests on a few things and if anything comes back positive, eliminate it from your diet and see how your energy levels go. i doubt since you have normal test levels that testosterone is going to fix the problem.. hopefully you can see the angle im taking here

 

[tuff oldy]

If you have good natural levels of test, i dont suggest going on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). once you make that descision there is no going back after a certain point.

So i would suggest just getting the letro and gradually easing up to a dose of 2.5mg a day until the gyno is gone and then slowly taper it back down and come off.

I would look at your diet, you may have foods that you dont actually know your intollerant to that could be fucking up your energy levels. Get some alergy tests on a few things and if anything comes back positive, eliminate it from your diet and see how your energy levels go. i doubt since you have normal test levels that testosterone is going to fix the problem.. hopefully you can see the angle im taking here

Thank you for you great advice. You make sense.

 

[tuff oldy]

how bad a re the side effects of letro?

 

[mdella89]

It really depends person to person. Say for instance with tren, it has some of the biggest side effects out of any steroid, some people can litterally not handle it at all and will have to stop because its that bad.

Me personally i get trouble getting to sleep which is fixed by a xanex. that is all and i am getting amazing gains


My point is that some things can be really bad for some people and some things can be a breeze to others, you wont know until you give it a go. So try the letro and if you feel the sides are bareable enough to get rid of the letro keep going, but if you feel that they arent tollerable dont do it.

Plain and simply you wont know until you do it as we are all slightly different

 

[tuff oldy]

Me personally i get trouble getting to sleep which is fixed by a xanex. that is all and i am getting amazing gains

So you are taking Letro on your cycle?. Letro wont give any positive sides will it. I read weight gain. But I am guessing water retention.

 

[dfeaton]

I had chronic gyno for years. Sore painful sensitive nips. Letro did the trick. I was on about
3 1/2 weeks.

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

i used letro to rid gyno I had... its the only Aromatase inhibitor (AI) that actually passes through cell membrane... i really hated Letro. the rebounding was rough. sore joints libido not so good but its a lot better THAN HAVING MAN BOOBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tuff oldy]

is the fix permanent?

 

[dfeaton]

Still have some lumps & I am gyno sensitive, but after having it for years noway I can complain.

 

[mdella89]

So you are taking Letro on your cycle?. Letro wont give any positive sides will it. I read weight gain. But I am guessing water retention.

I personally have not had to use letro, i get away with 0.5 adex EOD and that does the job fine for me. but if the time calls for it i will use letro

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

is the fix permanent?

Yesum