experts on eliminating gyno while on and off cycle

[Boricua2480]

Ok, so I posted this somewhere else and never really got any replies from any experts. Here it goes...
I haven't done a cycle of anything in a couple years. I took some Cellucor P6 test booster and while taking it, developed gyno which is weird, but anyway.

I have Clomid and Letro on hand now, but want to make the right choice. So here's what I'm thinking...

A. I'm thinking of either taking Letro until its gone and finishing with clomid to keep it gone and bring me back from being shut down from letro

B. I was thinking another option is to run my PH cycle that I was planning on running and take letro during the cycle and clomid after.

C. Or 3rd option is to take raloxifen either by itself now or during cycle. Can anybody help with these thoughts?

Whatever is my best option, I need to get this going asap. Thanks everybody,

 

[Wheyson]

dont get it.
do u just wanna keep it in check while u do another cycle, or do want to reverse/combat the already existing gyno?
How long have u had the gyno?

letro will combat ongoing gyno, but to REVERSE it u need SERMs. Raloxifen is what u need to reverse gyno.
Also, letro will give u a "estrogen-crush" and severe joint-aches.

 

[Austinite]

I don't think you developed gynecomastia from this compound. I looked at the ingredients, and there is nothing in it that will either elevate testosterone or impact estradiol.

I would visit a physician to confirm gynecomastia.

 

[bushleaguechew]

Have you gained weight as a result of that test booster or after you finished? It could just be a little bit of fat....

 

[Boricua2480]

It's definitely gyno. I've had a couple flare ups over the past five or six years. It started after my 2nd or 3rd PH cycle. But I never to this extent. I mean its not real noticable unless you know what to look for but its noticable to me, and painful to the touch. Its a lil bigger than nickel sized and only on the left side. Its always only been on the left side. Docs always say it'll go away on its own and usually it does over months and months. I dont have any blood test results off hand, but they always say im in normal range. which irritates the crap out of me whats normal for one isnt normal for another.

Anyways, id like to get rid of it. But im going to do my cycle soon. So I dont know what my best option is for this situation.

 

[Boricua2480]

So im wondering, if im a couple weeks away from a cycle, should I hold off on a serm like Raloxifene and wait til im done? Or should I use the serm with my cycle and after? Or should I use the serm after? And what dose? Thanks.

 

[Black Beard]

I also looked at the ingredient's. You didn't get gyno from this crap. On a funny note, it contain's placenta. That's fucking hilarious.


Is that shit seriously 120 dollars a bottle? Why don't you just take steroids?

 

[Teutonic]

....or cut em out.......

 

[Boricua2480]

I dont want to get off topic so just to stick with my questions, should I hit it with Ralox now and do my PH cycle when its gone, or take Ralox during my cycle, or wait and take Ralox after the cycle? What would you do experts?

 

[bushleaguechew]

I dont want to get off topic so just to stick with my questions, should I hit it with Ralox now and do my PH cycle when its gone, or take Ralox during my cycle, or wait and take Ralox after the cycle? What would you do experts?

What PH are you taking about? More of that test booster?

 

[Black Beard]

Yeah, are you talking about that placenta cycle?

 

[Boricua2480]

No, a PH cycle. Titan Stack. Again, not to get off topic, but time is of the essence here so please, back to my questions...and also there is nothing in P6 about placenta lol. Where the hell did you come up with that anyway? Doesn't matter I just need to know what I should do in this scenario. Thanks.

 

[Black Beard]

Kill the gyno first. Then next time, make sure that whatever you are taking is kept in check by AI. Good luck

 

[Boricua2480]

Kill the gyno first. Then next time, make sure that whatever you are taking is kept in check by AI. Good luck

So ill get some Ralox now. And when I take my cycle later on, what do you recommend with a serm or AI, should I take a serm or AI during cycle or post cycle? Ive been putting off the cycle cuz i wanted to read and understand how to do pct properly and at what dosages and times that I've read so much on this that my head is spinning and im confused as hell. If someone could help with a plan of action id greatly appreciate it.

 

[Black Beard]

You won't know unless you get blood work.(to use AI) Pro-hormones are much more unpredictable than real AAS, so i can't tell you what you have to do. Fix your gyno and make sure you know what you are doing before you start taking anything else.

AI you would take during cycle to lower estro if it's high(you should know this if you are taking performance enhancing drugs, this is steroids 101), SERMS are used post-cycle to encourage the testes to start producing hormones after they have been down regulated. All this info you will find in the stickies up top. I know you are "in a rush" but you can't rush AAS. You will only end up fucking yourself in the end and the chances of messing up will rise exponentially. Cycles take a good amount of planning and you should always have a plan B and C. You can't do that if you don't know what you are doing.

 

[Boricua2480]

You won't know unless you get blood work.(to use AI) Pro-hormones are much more unpredictable than real AAS, so i can't tell you what you have to do. Fix your gyno and make sure you know what you are doing before you start taking anything else.

AI you would take during cycle to lower estro if it's high(you should know this if you are taking performance enhancing drugs, this is steroids 101), SERMS are used post-cycle to encourage the testes to start producing hormones after they have been down regulated. All this info you will find in the stickies up top. I know you are "in a rush" but you can't rush AAS. You will only end up fucking yourself in the end and the chances of messing up will rise exponentially. Cycles take a good amount of planning and you should always have a plan B and C. You can't do that if you don't know what you are doing.

I I wouldn't say im in a rush. Ive had the PH for 6 months sitting while I reviewed info on s proper PCT. Theres so much conflicting info its crazy. I ordered some Ralox to get rid of my gyno. So now my question is can I also use Ralox as PCT for my cycle or should I use clomid and nolva combo? I read the combo is best but didnt know if that was written before info on Ralox came out. Thanks.

 

[bushleaguechew]

I I wouldn't say im in a rush. Ive had the PH for 6 months sitting while I reviewed info on s proper PCT. Theres so much conflicting info its crazy. I ordered some Ralox to get rid of my gyno. So now my question is can I also use Ralox as PCT for my cycle or should I use clomid and nolva combo? I read the combo is best but didnt know if that was written before info on Ralox came out. Thanks.

Haven't seen anyone advocating Raloxifene for PCT. Only gyno reversal.

 

[clman8585]

You probably got the gyno from rebound later down the road after a ph cycle. And since you were taking that placenta stuff at that time you associated it with your gyno. Anyways, if you insist on anothrr ph cycle.. take ralox or tamox ed while on cycle then do a proper pct as welll.

Why not just do real steroids?

 

[Black Beard]

You probably got the gyno from rebound later down the road after a ph cycle. And since you were taking that placenta stuff at that time you associated it with your gyno. Anyways, if you insist on anothrr ph cycle.. take ralox or tamox ed while on cycle then do a proper pct as welll.

Why not just do real steroids?

Every time i think about how that supplement contains "placenta" it never fails to put a smile on my face

 

[Boricua2480]

Every time i think about how that supplement contains "placenta" it never fails to put a smile on my face

Idk what you were looking up but its definitely not an ingredient in P6. Lol. And Ive thought abt roids but after looking up info it seems way more complicated. I'd need someone to show me how to do all that and I dont know anyone that does.