Feeling tired/ Please help

[ANAVARONLY]

Hello.
37YO.
6'3'', 205LBS, 12%BF
ON-DEX.5mg/ed, Dutasteride2.5mg/ED AV50mg/ED, TE325mg/mon, thurs, EQ250mg/mon, thurs = last 2 weeks. The first 4 weeks, replace AV with DBOL 40mg/ED. Currently in my 8th week. (2 weeks off between orals)
My issue is that I feel lethargic, but not really while working out, but I use a cre-alkaline pre workout drink with caffeine, etc. I have lost weight EVERY week of this cycle. (was 225 at start). I am a little confused, because my appetite is not very good. I am just not as hungry as I have been in the past, but am still eating about 3,000CAL/day.(Hi protein, low fat, try to keep carbs down) The last 6 weeks, I had been doing about 4 hours of cardio/week. I know that is considered "A lot" in terms of trying to gain mass, but some people told me I looked fat, so I attacked cardio for the first time since football in the 90's. I have not done any cardio this week (I definitely do not look fat anymore). I feel like sleeping a lot. Everyone tells me that I look better than I ever have. Strength is getting better every week.
Anyone have any Ideas? Would T3 help? Am I losing my mind?

 

[GymMang]

You are not losing your mind. On my first cycle I also had this problem. I do not agree with doing low fat and low carb. If I want to cut down carbs I will up the good fats. Not everyone may agree with this outlook but it worked for me. I was doing exactly what you were doing and my body was way too tired. After raising my carbs back up a lil I was feeling much better. My advice would be to try to manipulate your diet a little bit. Everyones body is different so there is not one right answer I can give you, but this may be the source of your problem. Hope this helps.

 

[ANAVARONLY]

I appreciate any Ideas! Normally, I want to eat everything, all the time on cycle. Not being hungry on this cycle just seems weird. I have never taken EQ or Anavar before this cycle. I will add more carbs just to check it out, but I must say I dont really "watch" them. I must take in hundreds per day, but maybe I am not getting enough. Thank you for taking the time to answer.

 

[mjunkie]

could be low estro, .5mg adex is too much man, my advice is to back off the adex completely for 4-5 days, and then start again with .5 E3D

 

[GymMang]

No problem man. And I am surprised with the EQ your appetite is not up because I know with some people they are able to eat much more because of it. If you really are having a hard time getting in more meals maybe try using some meal replacement shakes. Just a thought. I am confused by the way you wrote up your dosages. Are you taking 250mg of EQ a week? Most people will tell you that EQ should be run at least at 400 mg a week for at least 12 weeks. Ideally I would say 14 to 16 weeks with EQ.

 

[GymMang]

Great point junkie I didnt pick up on that

 

[mjunkie]

Great point junkie I didnt pick up on that

yeah ive had this problem in my first couple cycles, lots of ppl think theyre better off just killing estro altogether but its actually necessary...

 

[Iron Giant]

yeah ive had this problem in my first couple cycles, lots of ppl think theyre better off just killing estro altogether but its actually necessary...

Yeah. I agree. .5mg ED is overkill. .25-.50mg EOD (I like this one), or .50mg E3D.

 

[Ozzy172]

I never take adex or the like during cycle unless absolutely imperative because of being predisposed to issues. Not saying your EQ is bad but.....EQ usually makes anyone hungry as a bull. Also , screw what others tell you....what do you see in the mirror ?? Only you know your body and how it reacts...my experience is only my experience and what works for me , may not work for someone else. THIS is why we really can't give accurate advice....JUST OUR experience. Keep carbs high and grow , at the end of the cycle you can start to tweek things to shred up. I always go for as much size during a cycle , because you are gonna lose some when you go off and thats when I shred up.
Peace Oz

 

[ANAVARONLY]

Thanks! I had Surgery for gyno when I was 25 (one side). I was following info from a website regarding the dex, but am happy to try E3D. Gyno sucked pretty bad. The EQ should be real but I honestly do not know. It is the same manufacturer as the TE, which is definitely real. Sorry for dose confusion 650TE/week, 500EQ/week. I really appreciate your help guys! I am going to add carbs and go E3D Dex.

 

[Oreon]

I had the same problem on my last cycle. Turned out my gear was bunk and I had been injecting myself with poisonous oil!

 

[ANAVARONLY]

I had the same problem on my last cycle. Turned out my gear was bunk and I had been injecting myself with poisonous oil!

That's terrible.

 

[ANAVARONLY]

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