Female here needing to know what to take to lean down and cut up.

Italiana1989

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okay- So I am wanting to get into using some female safe steroids lol. I have NEVER taken steroids before. I have an amazing muscle genetics. after only working out for 3 weeks, I look like my profile picture. I have natural muscle so I dont need any steroid that is going to make me gain muscle. What I am looking to do it lean down ALOT and cut up :) what should I do?
 
You should really be more concerned with getting your diet on point first. Without the proper diet, there is no supplement on earth that is going to make you lean and cut. If you're serious about it, you should talk to 3J. He's the diet guru around here.
 
If you are new to fitness and working out, it is probably best to lose what you can via diet and exercise. But once you approach the point when your returns are diminishing vs. your maximum efforts, and you still want to embark on a chemical enhancement journey, you will have to plan differently than men.

All anabolic/androgenic steroids have two components that must be considered. The anabolic component: This is the index that refers to the ability of a particular drug to build muscle, or preserve muscle when dieting.

The androgenic component: This is the index that, for your purposes, initiate masculinizing effects. You will want to stay away from steroids that have a large androgenic component, or you will be singing bass in the church choir within a few months, shaving your back, and a few other side effects that your significant other may find somewhat unsettling.

Other compounds that a chemically enhanced novice might have interest in for cutting purposes: (This is a not, by any stretch of the imagination, an all inclusive list--its just the highlights. You will need to exhaustively research the following compounds)
T-4-Thyroid hormone
T-3-Thyroid hormone
Clenbuterol-Beta agonist/sympathomimetic--in other words, its a stimulant.


You will need to conduct your own research into these drugs in the "drug profile" section. Please note that some of these drugs are dangerous and can temporarily or permanently alter your body's hormones.

Good luck.
 
Wanna work with the men gotta put in the work like a man.
Only training 3 weeks? So you have 3 solid weeks of training under your belt? And as stated above how is the diet?

1. Get a solid 1.5-2 years of training. You don't know your limits, all roids do is mask your limits resulting in injury. Yes even if your not lifting heavy

2. Diet diet diet. In 2 weeks of tweaking my diet down to 50-60 carbs I can see changes in my body only if I had more time for damn cardio!

3. Research! Read! Learn! Before even thinking of putting this stuff in your body especially since you're a girl. This stuff is so much more potent to you then men .
 
joliver, I was thinking of getting a diet and plan from 3j, continue dieting and exercising while taking clen, and anavar, someone mentioned taking win aswell, but I have heard wayyyyy to many horror stories from females with that one. what do you all think?
 
joliver, I was thinking of getting a diet and plan from 3j, continue dieting and exercising while taking clen, and anavar, someone mentioned taking win aswell, but I have heard wayyyyy to many horror stories from females with that one. what do you all think?

A diet plan from 3j would be a great way to go! to say the least. However there are many diet plans available all around. Look around and find one and stick to it. Save the clen and anavar, especially winstrol! Who ever suggested that is retarded. If you have the funds, Contact 3j and he will get you on the right track and help you get your meals and macros in check. Keep working out and let your body work and do its thing before trying to enhance your body by taking drugs. With drugs, can come side effects, (some worse than others especially females) they can be controlled if are understood by mature responsible individuals and we are all here to help. But right now were in step one or two....consistency with your diet and in the gym
 
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I would stay away from any steroids for now. Talk to 3j and get as close to ur goals as u can then if u feel u want more u can try some anavar
 
Getting in good shape all comes down to training, diet and genetics. Get the training and diet down and bust your ass off (literally). When you reach your plateau, then consider the ancillaries... My 2 cents..
 
joliver, I was thinking of getting a diet and plan from 3j, continue dieting and exercising while taking clen, and anavar, someone mentioned taking win aswell, but I have heard wayyyyy to many horror stories from females with that one. what do you all think?

Italiana, your FIRST stop needs to be 3J. He has forgotten more about cutting edge nutrition than I will ever know. That is roughly equivalent to getting your getting your equipment to play this game. Without diet and exercise, nothing else is worth attempting.

Next step: place that diet and exercise plan in place. You must determine where you are and what you are capable of doing naturally. I.E.--If your goal is to lose 10lbs, and you lose a pound a week, you can quickly achieve that with no enhancement. But even if your goals are more complex, and you do decide that you want to enhance your effort, you still need to know what your natural metabolism is capable of doing on your new program. Case in point--if you can naturally lose 2lbs per week, and use clen and find yourself losing 5lbs per week--be wary. Rapid weight gain or loss can do screwy things to your system...not the least of which is to cause gallstones. You don't want that. You want a even and sustainable pace.

Final step: Decide if your strengths are enough to achieve your goals alone...if so, do that--it increases your overall potential. I always say, "if you need roids to play ball in high school--you wont play in college; if you need roids to play in college--you wont go pro; if you need them to go pro--you will never be an all-star; if you need them to be an all-star--take them, its millions to the pocket." With that said, you know where you stand in your progression.


On to the next subject, the AAS's you named (winny and anavar). Anavar is a relatively mild drug with mostly anabolic properties, and very little (if any androgenic activity). It is usually the steroid of choice for women interested in bodybuilding, but would rather stay a woman. Gains will be slow...and take place over a longer period of time. Keep in mind that while Anavar is less hepatotoxic (liver damaging) than other oral steroids, it MUST be a consideration. You only have one liver....and it performs over 600 functions. You cant have "fun" without "function"....or the other way around...whatever. I needed at least one joke in a post this long.

Winstrol is a bit sketchy for women. Virilization is, for the most part, irreversible. You can gamble with it, but I don't know very many women that would. You need to advance a few more levels before you would even know if that is for you.
 
You don't want hop on var or clen after working out for 3 weeks. Don't be silly. No shortcuts.. diet and cardio.
 
Steroids cause minimal fat loss. Like the other guys have said, diet is the way to go. A solid diet & cardio program will help get rid of the fat 20X more quickly than any AAS.

Of course, you can always add in some fat loss drugs if you like...they would certainly help speed up the process. You could use Clen, T3, Ephedrine, etc (not all at once). Personally, I would recommend getting your T3 levels checked before using T3. T3 can help burn a lot of fat, but it does this solely by increasing metabolic rate---increased calorie burning. This means it is indiscriminate regarding the type of calories it burns. It is just as likely to use calories from exitsing muscle tissue (which means muscle loss), as it is from fat cells. This is especially true in women, as they lack the hormonal profile of male steroid users, which helps spare muscle tissue. Even then, many steroiud using men have lost muscle tissue when using T3.

Therefore, for someone in your situation, unless you have a sluggish metabolism (low T3 levels), then it is not the drug for you. A better alternative...in terms of losing fat while maintaning muscle tissue, is something like Clen or Ephedrine. In addition to those (use ONLY one at a time), you could add further fat loss agents (but no other stimulant-based drugs), such as Yohimbine HCL, green coffe bean extract, caffiene, etc. I realize caffiene is a stimulant, but when used at normal dosages, it doesn't seem to cause a problem and will further enhance fat burning. You could combine as many non-stimulant fat-loss compounds as you like, assuming they all work through different mechanisms, as it doesn't make any sense to use 2 compounds which basically do the same thing.

Growth hormone is another excellent, although expensive drug, which can be combined with any of the above. It directly causes an increase in lipolysis (releases fat from fat cells), while assisting with muscle growth, although to a much lesser degree than steroids. You don't have to worry about getting "too big" when using GH. It will also helo improve your hair, your skin, your sleep, make you look younger overall, and provide numerous other benefits. Since females produce a relatively small amount of GH, even small amounts can make a significant difference, although the drug should be used a minimum of 3 months. In terms of fat loss, results come rather slowly, but they are consistent and will continue to pile up over the long-haul.

If you eventually decide to use a steroid, there are several exceptable choices, but be forewarned, many of the steroids desired by females are frequently bunk. Steroids such as Anavar and Primo are two of the most commonly mis-labeled steroids sold today. In fact, I would guesstimate that as much as 90% of all Var and Primo being sold by UGL's is not real Var. This means that you might think you are using Anavar when in reality you are using a completely different steroid...and it is almost assured to be one with a much more potent androgenic profile...which means it can cause masculinizing side effects. You need to be very careful when buy these kind of steroids from UGL's. Actually, my ecommendation, if you are not actively involved and up to date in the UGL world, is to avoid using these products altogether.

Rather, there are a few legal alternatives, which are not only as weakly androgenic as car or Primo, but are virtually gauranteed to be 100% legitimate...assuming you buy from the right companies. Two great choices for women are Halo Extreme (Halodrol) and Osta RX (Ostarine). Halo Extreme (not to be confused with Halotestin) is a vry weak androgen and provides effects very, very similar to Anavar. You will not gain any bulk or bloated muscle. It will all be lean, hard, an dry...and if you are following a reduced calorie diet, which you should be when trying to lose fat, you might not gain any muscle at all. Rather, it will simply help you harden up, dry out, and become more "defined" overall.

Ostarine is a "steroid-like" drug tecnically known as a S.A.R.M. (selective androgen receptor modulator). This drug was invented bya pharmceutical company specifially to provide anabolic effects without the typical steroid side effects. You will not experience any androgenic, estrogenic, or progestagenic side effects. In other words, there are no visually noticable side effects to speak of. It works almost soley on muscle tissue alone. My wife just finished 8 week cycle at 15 mg/day. She experienced ZERO side effects. I recommend buying through IML (Halo Extreme or Osta RX), as I know they 3rd party lab test every batch of every product they sell. They are a reputable, respected company.

I would be a great idea to hire a well known, respected coach for help with constructing a diet...one which will help you achieve your goals, while also being compatable with yourself lifestyle and personal preferences--as much as possible, of course.

Some guys might think it is too early for you to hop on fat loss drugs. I believe it is too eary to begin using AAS of any sort, but as long as you are under the proper supervision...someone who can teach you how to responsibly use fat loss drugs/supps...I don't have a problem with it. As long as you are doing what you should be doing in your diet & training, then why does it matter of you use fat loss drugs now...or wait until later? From a health standpoint, it doesn't make a bit of difference. I think some guys are just worried the person might slack on their training & diet and expect the drugs to do all the work...and I agree that is not the way to go, but if you are working hard, then there is no reason you have to "wait" to benefit from these fat loss drugs.

With a proper diet, a sound weight training & cardio program, the right fat loss products, and perhaps a steroid/SARM a little later on down the road, you would be able to make very rapid progress.
 
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okay- So I am wanting to get into using some female safe steroids lol. I have NEVER taken steroids before. I have an amazing muscle genetics. after only working out for 3 weeks, I look like my profile picture. I have natural muscle so I dont need any steroid that is going to make me gain muscle. What I am looking to do it lean down ALOT and cut up :) what should I do?

Hate to burst your bubble but women can only put on about 0.5 - 1 lbs of muscle a month without gear. That's with a solid lifting routine and hitting your macros.

Your muscle base isn't visible at this stage but I doubt that you have any. It takes takes years to build a proper muscle base. Most certainly not three weeks.

What you need is a proper lifting routine with cardio and a nutrition plan that will fit your goals. Muscle is a metabolic active tissue so the more muscle you have the more calories you burn.

You need to stick to your diet and exercise consistently to learn what your body is capable of.

Be committed. Stick to your diet and exercise routine for a year and you'll see a big difference. There are no shortcuts or magic potions to have a smokin' hot body. You have to work for it.

Good luck!
 
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I think rack up a lot more hours before considering it. Everyone's suggested 3J to work out your diet...they would be right. That before anything else. Thought I'd jump in the anavar and winstrol discussion. Forget winstrol. It's a terrible idea for women, and your joints won't feel great. After some more research, dieting and time in the gym, I think a anavar cycle 5-10mg (don't quote me) would be the safer option.
 
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