fin and deca

[godofwar]

I am thinkin of a test e and deca cylce

1-10w deca 250mg ew
1-12w test e 500mg ew
1-12w ai

I am useing finasteride 1.25 ed.

is this a good idea?? or should i drop the finasteride during the cylce??

 

[1badmofo]

I don't recall the logic but I remember Scarz had a reasonable explanation about why not to use Deca with Finasteride, maybe some else know what that reason was. All, I recall is don't do it.

 

[3J]

off topic.. but is the finasteride giving the little guy issues?? it always does with me

ur taking it to prevent hairloss correct? unless you have an enlarged prostate?

also, deca is a 19-nor.. which means that it will cause much rise in DHT levels in your system..

finasteride combats dht... see the issue?? it's kinda counter productive...

 

[1badmofo]

only issue I had with Finasteride was puffy nips

 

[3J]

puffy nipples from taking a dht blocker??

were u on anything else??

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

up

 

[1badmofo]

puffy nipples from taking a dht blocker??

were u on anything else??

just low dose of test, gyno symptoms are a listed side effect of finasteride

 

[3J]

just low dose of test, gyno symptoms are a listed side effect of finasteride

fml.. everything seems to cause gyno these days.. even otc ph's...

 

[godofwar]

off topic.. but is the finasteride giving the little guy issues?? it always does with me

ur taking it to prevent hairloss correct? unless you have an enlarged prostate?

also, deca is a 19-nor.. which means that it will cause much rise in DHT levels in your system..

finasteride combats dht... see the issue?? it's kinda counter productive...

im takin it for hairloss but have no problems sometimes it takes i while to bust a nut. lol
but the girl friend doesnt mind haha

 

[irongamer]

The science behind avoiding finasteride with Deca is pretty simple to understand but you will have to make a choice here because of the test being run with it. Finasteride lowers the 5 alpha reductase enzyme in the body. This enzyme converts test to DHT (very helpful as DHT is the hair murderer). The enzyme also converts Nandrolone to DHN which is actually good because DHN (dihydronandrolone) is less androgenic than nandrolone itself. So while it help greatly with the test it is counterproductive with Deca and NPP. For hair purposes we want nandrolone to convert to DHN because DHN is less harmfull to our hairline and the prostate.

In todays world where we know that deca without test is a no no...you are probably better including fin in your cycle as DHT is much worse than nandrolone on your hair line. if I had a choice of keeping test from converting to DHT and keeping nandrolone from reducing to DHN I would take it. DHT is much worse than Nandrolone. In the days when people ran deca without test then you would definitely not want to use fin with Deca.

I don't use nandrolone's for this reason and stick with EQ (not as effective for growing and bulking I know). I have to use fin with test or I will go bald. If you want to keep your hair safe there is very little you can use. Test w Fin, EQ, and T-bol are the safest followed by Var. Var being a DHT derivative can cause problems for prone people however. I don't post here much but i hope this helps ya.

Gamer

 

[3J]

The science behind avoiding finasteride with Deca is pretty simple to understand but you will have to make a choice here because of the test being run with it. Finasteride lowers the 5 alpha reductase enzyme in the body. This enzyme converts test to DHT (very helpful as DHT is the hair murderer). The enzyme also converts Nandrolone to DHN which is actually good because DHN (dihydronandrolone) is less androgenic than nandrolone itself. So while it help greatly with the test it is counterproductive with Deca and NPP. For hair purposes we want nandrolone to convert to DHN because DHN is less harmfull to our hairline and the prostate.

In todays world where we know that deca without test is a no no...you are probably better including fin in your cycle as DHT is much worse than nandrolone on your hair line. if I had a choice of keeping test from converting to DHT and keeping nandrolone from reducing to DHN I would take it. DHT is much worse than Nandrolone. In the days when people ran deca without test then you would definitely not want to use fin with Deca.

I don't use nandrolone's for this reason and stick with EQ (not as effective for growing and bulking I know). I have to use fin with test or I will go bald. If you want to keep your hair safe there is very little you can use. Test w Fin, EQ, and T-bol are the safest followed by Var. Var being a DHT derivative can cause problems for prone people however. I don't post here much but i hope this helps ya.

Gamer

BUMP for that.. great info!

 

[godofwar]

The science behind avoiding finasteride with Deca is pretty simple to understand but you will have to make a choice here because of the test being run with it. Finasteride lowers the 5 alpha reductase enzyme in the body. This enzyme converts test to DHT (very helpful as DHT is the hair murderer). The enzyme also converts Nandrolone to DHN which is actually good because DHN (dihydronandrolone) is less androgenic than nandrolone itself. So while it help greatly with the test it is counterproductive with Deca and NPP. For hair purposes we want nandrolone to convert to DHN because DHN is less harmfull to our hairline and the prostate.

In todays world where we know that deca without test is a no no...you are probably better including fin in your cycle as DHT is much worse than nandrolone on your hair line. if I had a choice of keeping test from converting to DHT and keeping nandrolone from reducing to DHN I would take it. DHT is much worse than Nandrolone. In the days when people ran deca without test then you would definitely not want to use fin with Deca.

I don't use nandrolone's for this reason and stick with EQ (not as effective for growing and bulking I know). I have to use fin with test or I will go bald. If you want to keep your hair safe there is very little you can use. Test w Fin, EQ, and T-bol are the safest followed by Var. Var being a DHT derivative can cause problems for prone people however. I don't post here much but i hope this helps ya.

Gamer

thax

 

[godofwar]

The science behind avoiding finasteride with Deca is pretty simple to understand but you will have to make a choice here because of the test being run with it. Finasteride lowers the 5 alpha reductase enzyme in the body. This enzyme converts test to DHT (very helpful as DHT is the hair murderer). The enzyme also converts Nandrolone to DHN which is actually good because DHN (dihydronandrolone) is less androgenic than nandrolone itself. So while it help greatly with the test it is counterproductive with Deca and NPP. For hair purposes we want nandrolone to convert to DHN because DHN is less harmfull to our hairline and the prostate.

In todays world where we know that deca without test is a no no...you are probably better including fin in your cycle as DHT is much worse than nandrolone on your hair line. if I had a choice of keeping test from converting to DHT and keeping nandrolone from reducing to DHN I would take it. DHT is much worse than Nandrolone. In the days when people ran deca without test then you would definitely not want to use fin with Deca.

I don't use nandrolone's for this reason and stick with EQ (not as effective for growing and bulking I know). I have to use fin with test or I will go bald. If you want to keep your hair safe there is very little you can use. Test w Fin, EQ, and T-bol are the safest followed by Var. Var being a DHT derivative can cause problems for prone people however. I don't post here much but i hope this helps ya.

Gamer

Soo if the deca was at 400mg ew and the test at 200mg ew i would have to drop the fin???

 

[irongamer]

godofwar that's exactly what I was gonna put in my post for u but didn't want it to get too much longer customer Marathon responses can Ger laborious to read. Anything 250mg or under I would drop the fin and go with topical regimine to combat the dht sides. I would opt for a 3 way approach using minoxidil 5%, Spiro and nizoral 2% shampoo. Hope this helps. Got a great and cheap connect for all 3. They call it the hair savers package...lol PM me if u need the site.

gamer

 

[pinoy009]

hey guys i need help for my first cycle

can anyone help me take the stick outta my ass?? because i have nothing better to do with my time then impale forigen objects into my anus and i think i got too excited with this stick







WE WONT TOLLERATE TROLLS HERE, STOP WASTING UR TIME.. FINAL WARNING

 

[3J]

i took deca200 before for 5ml

now im taking test enanthate 250 and tren enanthae 100 this is my first cylce so i need yall help guys?thanks

about me

im 19
weight 162 last i check
height 8'8

yall guys think this should be a good idea for me

i smell a troll... how am i gonna embaress this one?? hummm...

 

[1badmofo]

he is 8'8" ?

 

[godofwar]

godofwar that's exactly what I was gonna put in my post for u but didn't want it to get too much longer customer Marathon responses can Ger laborious to read. Anything 250mg or under I would drop the fin and go with topical regimine to combat the dht sides. I would opt for a 3 way approach using minoxidil 5%, Spiro and nizoral 2% shampoo. Hope this helps. Got a great and cheap connect for all 3. They call it the hair savers package...lol PM me if u need the site.

gamer

thax game good lookin out