First Cyc ??s

[deepseaskydiver]

I have a question about my first cycle. It is prescribed from my physician, but the more I read on this forum, the more I think I need to get more opinions on what he has prescribed.

My biggest reason for taking this was too get my shoulder as strong as possible before going into surgery. It worked great. I had the surgery for a torn rotator, AC joint cleanup and clavicle decompression last Wednesday. Two days later I am hitting rehab for my shoulder in the morning and the gym in the evening for the rest.

I am 38 years old and have been training hard for about 12 years with a clean diet. I started this cycle at a BW of 169 and am now 185lbs at a height of 5'11. Strength gains have been great. I am getting ready to start my 7th week.

310mg Test Cyp EW
105mg Deca EW
25mg Anavar every day
.75mg Arimidex twice a week
10mg Tomoxifen twice a week


I was told to take "everything" for 12 weeks
and then discontinue and start post cycle therapy (pct).

PCT
51mg Clomid everyday for 15 days
1000 Units Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD for 11 days
continue Tamoxifen and Armidex until gone (2 weeks)



When should I start post cycle therapy (pct)? Do I wait one week after last injection (week 13?)
Should I stop taking Deca early?
When should I stop Anavar?

I appreciate your help. Thanks

 

[leanbody]

low doses for everything IMO. The danger with a low dose Test cycle is that it shuts down your nuts and then you end up right where you were before (or a little above.) Ask the doc for some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) - tell him your nuts are shrinking (atrophy) the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle will keep the boys interested in their job while the chemical test is in you. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) is not considered the best choice these days. Also i've always seen a higher dose of Deca for rehab - closer to 400, but having said that you have to keep your Test at least 100mg higher than whatever your deca is, so you'd have to change all the doses. the Anavar (var) is very light - can't hurt but you may not get much from it.

Having said all that - listen to your body and see how you are feeling. i am sure your doc will be reticent to give you dosing of a "real" cycle. i have found that docs (GP's) don't really know shit about steroids - last one actually told me it could cause prostate cancer - what a dumfuk! Do your research and take a print out with you if you want him to make changes. Also ask for Physical Therapy - insurance usually pays for it and it can really help with recovery. good luck bro.
i would definitely stop the deca 1-2 weeks before the test so you make sure that your test levels don't fall below the deca. I (think) deca has a longer half life in your body.

 

[deepseaskydiver]

Thanks a bunch for the info.

Since I am starting week 7 of 12 do you think I should bother bumping up the dose of Test and Deca, say 500T/300D for the remaining weeks. I am unable to train my upper body very hard due to my shoulder rehab, so I am wondering if I should just remain at these lower doses with the addition of the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as you recommended and save my efforts for the next cycle in 6 months when everything is healed up.

Also is 15 days of clomid adequate for PCT?

Thanks again for taking the time to keep me straight.

 

[leanbody]

Thanks a bunch for the info.

Since I am starting week 7 of 12 do you think I should bother bumping up the dose of Test and Deca, say 500T/300D for the remaining weeks. I am unable to train my upper body very hard due to my shoulder rehab, so I am wondering if I should just remain at these lower doses with the addition of the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as you recommended and save my efforts for the next cycle in 6 months when everything is healed up.

Also is 15 days of clomid adequate for PCT?

Thanks again for taking the time to keep me straight.

I would recommend just keeping it the same and stockpiling for your next decent cycle. Still ask the doc for more (I assume its covered by Insurance) definately stop the deca a week before the test, and I've always seen PCT last 4 weeks. The test will still be in your system for 2 weeks after you stop. make sure you get a blood test after 4 weeks to see where your natty level is at. Also be prepared for some depression/lethargy as your test levels drop. (Although yours may not drop as low as mine, but that always seems to happen to me.and takes me by surprise.

I bet your will recover well, and in 3-6 months when you do another cycle you'll see great gains!

 

[deepseaskydiver]

THanks for the help

 

[leanbody]

THanks for the help

No problem bro. can u lay some reps on me?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

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