FIRST cycle all advice accepted

[New b]

Okay im going to start off by saying im not experienced with anabolic steroids

Age:19/ Weight: 175-180 pounds/ Height:6'1

So im thinking of running Test E stacked with Var for about 10-12 weeks.
I don't know how much ml a week but low doses my friend is more experienced and will fill me in.
Also im not trying to retain a massive build more lean then bulk but a bit of puff doesn't hurt.
Now I was wondering about pct what to use and when during the cycle because I don't even know were to begin.
I was also wondering if I should stack Test E with Winstrel or would that be a bad idea for first cycle.

 

[nah444]

Everyone is going to tell you wait until 25 to do steroids.

Here is 5min video to watch - it will give you some very good reasons to not use Steroids in your teens.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3XILyHRxADc

If you are dead set on using AAS right now and can't be convinced otherwise - read this sticky (linked below) and understand everything in it. Stick to testosterone only first cycle. One of the big reasons is because if you add in another compound you will not know which one is causing you side effects if you are seeing any. You could also see diminishing returns on later cycles. You need AI while you are on cycle and Cholmid/Nova on hand for PTC after cycle (How long after you last injection depends on the half life of the steroid you take) as a must. The sticky will give you a lot more information than I can.

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/664646-cycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

Edit: I don't want to sound like a cocky twat (some of u may call b/s on this, but it's true).. at 19 I was putting pounds upon pounds of muscle on naturally with ease. From the ages of 17-20 I went from 5,9 - 98lbs (I was a seriously underweight boy, had some redic low b/f) to 175lbs@15%-18% b/f. At 23 and even taking 2 years from 20-22 out im still finding it very easy to pile muscle on naturally. Im currently sitting @ 5,9 - 190lbs @ around 15%-18%bf - 10lbs of this has come from my body naturally filling out - i got wider and thicker just growing with age (i've actually dropped an inch of my waist 2 years not doing much just eating well). Since i've started training again seriously recovering from my injury i've been able to add a pound of muscle a month to my frame every month this year.

There is no reason you can't do the same. If you take steroids now you risk shutting your body down and losing massive potential natural gains, you will never gain as fast naturally as you can now, you will never recover as fast naturally as you can now.

 

[Megatron28]

You are too young for AAS. Your brain and endocrine system are still developing. You will very likely severely screw up your HPTA if you run a cycle. Wait until you are at least age 25.

And given how skinny you are, you would be best off learning how to run a proper diet. It would cost you a whole lot less, be a lot safer and get you great results to contact 3J here and get set up with a good diet.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Diet! Seriously, as mega mentioned above use your money to hire 3J. Have a look at his pictures of recent clients thread. He does some amazing stuff. You will be surprised the amazing results that can be acheived under the guidance of a good nutritionist. Especially at your stats.. Your going to feel like your on gear. Plus no risk to your health, your dick, your physique (acne, man boobs, hairloss etc.)

I ran my first cycle at age 19 and have regretted it ever since. If i could go back J would, hire someone good like 3J and honestly I'd probably have a far better physique now if I had waited. But whats done is done... Be smart about this. Your hormones aren't something to be taken lightly, especially at your age.

 

[MCHub]

Like the others have said, you should learn how to eat based on your goals before you begin using AAS.

But if your hellbent on doing it anyway someone might as well point you in the right direction.

Post cycle therapy from a Test E cycle would begin two weeks after your last injection(because thats how long the E(ethanate) ester is)
Two compounds to use....

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

Each number above is representative of the daily dose for that week; for a 4 week total PCT run. So clomid would be taken at 75 mg daily for 1 week, then 3 weeks at 50mg daily. And Nolvadex would be 40 mg daily for 1 week, then 20 mg daily for the last 3 weeks.

As for using Winstrol, it is probably better to just use Test at first so that you know for sure how your body reacts to it. test is the base for all cycles and you want to know what effects it has on your body..because everyone reacts a little differently.

 

[Megatron28]

Like the others have said, you should learn how to eat based on your goals before you begin using AAS.

But if your hellbent on doing it anyway someone might as well point you in the right direction.

Post cycle therapy from a Test E cycle would begin two weeks after your last injection(because thats how long the E(ethanate) ester is)
Two compounds to use....

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

Each number above is representative of the daily dose for that week; for a 4 week total PCT run. So clomid would be taken at 75 mg daily for 1 week, then 3 weeks at 50mg daily. And Nolvadex would be 40 mg daily for 1 week, then 20 mg daily for the last 3 weeks.

As for using Winstrol, it is probably better to just use Test at first so that you know for sure how your body reacts to it. test is the base for all cycles and you want to know what effects it has on your body..because everyone reacts a little differently.

The time it takes for the compound to eliminate from your body is ester and dose dependent. It isn't always 2 weeks. Taking 500mg/week is different than taking 2000mg/week even though the esters are the same.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Like the others have said, you should learn how to eat based on your goals before you begin using AAS.

But if your hellbent on doing it anyway someone might as well point you in the right direction.

Post cycle therapy from a Test E cycle would begin two weeks after your last injection(because thats how long the E(ethanate) ester is)
Two compounds to use....

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20

Each number above is representative of the daily dose for that week; for a 4 week total PCT run. So clomid would be taken at 75 mg daily for 1 week, then 3 weeks at 50mg daily. And Nolvadex would be 40 mg daily for 1 week, then 20 mg daily for the last 3 weeks.

As for using Winstrol, it is probably better to just use Test at first so that you know for sure how your body reacts to it. test is the base for all cycles and you want to know what effects it has on your body..because everyone reacts a little differently.

Yeah its not two weeks.... A 500mg test e cycle would require a wait of 21 days to be clear. More if 750mg, or a gram obviously. Wait time depends on the ester + the dose.

 

[New b]

I thank all of you for the incite about steroids but im sick of people staring me down because of my lankiness I know I could take them but I want to look like I can take them.

anywho so that's 75 mg for the hole week and continue for another 3 weeks, and nolva at the same time as clomid?

 

[Megatron28]

You have no idea what you are doing and the risk you would be taking. You are seriously going to mess yourself up. You need to spend months here doing research and learning.

 

[jozifp103]

I thank all of you for the incite about steroids but im sick of people staring me down because of my lankiness I know I could take them but I want to look like I can take them.

anywho so that's 75 mg for the hole week and continue for another 3 weeks, and nolva at the same time as clomid?

Theres too much to say to you right now in one post. There is so much you do not know and you could and will most likely mess yourself up for life. This is not to be taken lightly. Spend time doing research. And when I say time i mean YEARS gaining as much knowledge as you can. In the meantime eat a shit ton of good food and lift some heavy ass weights. You will grow. Steroids will not help you the way you think they will. read read read. and for the lov of god listed to all of these people trying to save you from hurting yourself. You said "all advice accepted" well you have your advice.