First cycle Beginner needs help to do it right!

[avio]

Should I suffer from any gyno or sides during cycle while using an AI... how should I introduce letrozole into the whole thing? continue Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (aromasin) + add letrozole?

I'll save nolva/clomid for post cycle therapy (pct), but I read on the forums clomid is enough for post cycle therapy (pct), nolva is not needed? Can someone confirm this?

I think Im quite ready now, just last bits of info im collecting and then gonna send my order in on monday.

 

[avio]

I would use it at the end of the cycle if you choose to run it

deca or anavar?

 

[Metalhead]

Should I suffer from any gyno or sides during cycle while using an AI... how should I introduce letrozole into the whole thing? continue Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (aromasin) + add letrozole?

I'll save nolva/clomid for post cycle therapy (pct), but I read on the forums clomid is enough for post cycle therapy (pct), nolva is not needed? Can someone confirm this?

I think Im quite ready now, just last bits of info im collecting and then gonna send my order in on monday.

There is a protocol on this site that will tell you the proper dose Of letro either with or without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I would run clomid 50/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 just to have the best chance to recover. If you want joint support do deca, and do a small amount like 200-300mg a week if you only want support. Anavar if you want to cut the fat but i would use it at the end to squeeze the water out

 

[avio]

So here is what my cycle will look like, please comment if it looks good as well as the post cycle therapy (pct).

Wk 1-14 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-12 Deca-250 weekly
Wk 1-14 Aromasin 10mg ED - monitor and adjust accordingly.
Wk 1-16.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection.


PCT
Begins wk 17 to wk 21

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20

 

[Metalhead]

Looks good

 

[avio]

So caber is not needed right with Aromasin? Letro for emergency gyno help, any links to that post you were referring to regarding the Letro during cycle.

 

[Sharmacus]

There is a protocol on this site that will tell you the proper dose Of letro either with or without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I would run clomid 50/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 just to have the best chance to recover. If you want joint support do deca, and do a small amount like 200-300mg a week if you only want support. Anavar if you want to cut the fat but i would use it at the end to squeeze the water out

I agree with everything you have said. Considering I was an idiot and have run Anavar only before with no problems, does this mean I could add it into my first testosterone cycle? If I get issues then at least I'll know it's the testosterone and not wondering which of the two it is. I just really like the idea of adding Anavar to a testosterone cycle, sounds fucking lean and mean as fuck.

 

[avio]

Looks good

how long should i run letro for if needed during cycle.

 

[avio]

I agree with everything you have said. Considering I was an idiot and have run Anavar only before with no problems, does this mean I could add it into my first testosterone cycle? If I get issues then at least I'll know it's the testosterone and not wondering which of the two it is. I just really like the idea of adding Anavar to a testosterone cycle, sounds fucking lean and mean as fuck.

i would think so.

 

[Metalhead]

This is the protocol ive found on this site

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro. 2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED. 3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1. Day 1: .25mg letro + anti-e* Day 2: .50mg letro Day 3: 1.0mg letro Day 4: 1.5mg letro Day 5: 2.0mg letro Day 6: 2.5mg letro **

2. Day 1: .50mg letro Day 2: 1.0mg letro Day 3: 1.5mg letro Day 4: 2.0mg letro Day 5: 2.5mg letro **

3. Day 1: .50mg letro Day 2: 1.0mg letro Day 3: 1.5mg letro Day 4: 2.0mg letro Day 5: 2.5mg letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

 

[Metalhead]

Run aro as you stated, adjust as you go. Caber may not be needed with such a small dose, but i would run it or b6 to be safe along with your aro

 

[Metalhead]

I agree with everything you have said. Considering I was an idiot and have run Ana Anavar (var) only before with no problems, does this mean I could add it into my first testosterone cycle? If I get issues then at least I'll know it's the testosterone and not wondering which of the two it is. I just really like the idea of adding Ana Anavar (var) to a testosterone cycle, sounds fucking lean and mean as fuck.

Again i would add it at the end if you did. Say you run a 12 week cycle of test, start Anavar (var) about week 6-8. However much youd want to run. At least by then, youd know how your body is responding to the test

 

[Sharmacus]

Again i would add it at the end if you did. Say you run a 12 week cycle of test, start Anavar (var) about week 6-8. However much youd want to run. At least by then, youd know how your body is responding to the test

Yeah this is true, thanks. I just hope I don't get test flu. Sounds like shit and you can't train for a week. Sounds so fucking shit. I was thinking of adding some Ana Anavar (var) in for six weeks at 80MG a day. Would hopefully lean me out nicely and possibly help keep fat and bloat away and to a minimum.

 

[avio]

Run aro as you stated, adjust as you go. Caber may not be needed with such a small dose, but i would run it or b6 to be safe along with your aro

So Ive started my cycle Monday, thanks for all the help everyone.

I'm going to add Deca to week 2 and continue to week 14, and continue test-e till week 16. Since I'll be doing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) starting week 2, and Aromasin as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on week 2 as well, you think I should keep some caber on hand for 250mg deca dose weekly? I'll be injecting the Deca with my Test-E on thursdays.

 

[avio]

Wk 1-16 Testosterone enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 2-14 deca-250mg weekly for joint support
Wk 3-22 Aromasin 12.5mg ED - monitor and adjust accordingly.
Wk 2-18 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection. < is this fine from week 2-18?


PCT
Begins wk 18 to wk 22

clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20


Does that look about right? Or is it fked up? I decided to do test for 16 weeks because I had a full 16 week test-e cycle, so i decided to add deca in at week 2 to run for 12 wks.

I figured keeping Deca at 250 would help me avoid adding Caber as I'll be doing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Aromasin and Test-E at 2x Deca dosage... any suggestions or feedback? If I increase Deca to 400mg, would I need caber on a e3d basis for how long ??

The reason for starting Aromasin at week 2 or 3 is because Test-E and Deca won't really be kicking in till week 3-4, so I read a lot of guys start week 2 or 3 with the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and HCG... do I have it right?

 

[Tornadoalley]

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What size of syringe and needle are recommened for Test & Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? I read 3cc 25X5/8 will be fine for Test-E, and 1CC 29 x 1/2" Insulin syringe & needle for HCG.

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