First Cycle. cyp & prop (on week 5)

[123xyz]

Im looking for some feedback on my cycle. (i KNow i should have done this before i started.)

im 21
5'7"
i was 160 before i started my cycle. 5 weeks in im currently 175
Im cycling with Test cyp & test prop (cyp =med grade, USP; prop=geneza)
since its my first cycle i was told to start low and work may up and ease back down

cc's ever monday/thursday
week1 .5 week2 .75 week3 1 week4 1.25 week5 1.5 week6 1.75 week7 2 week8 2 week9 2 week10 1.75 week11 1.5 week12 1.25
Than pct for 2 weeks

im eating around 3000calories to 5000calories a day (food/weight gainer/protien shakes)
Lifting heavy mon-fri
In my fitfh week ive notice big strength increases in my over all lifts, as for size, im not sure if ive put on muscle mass or if its just all the shakes or both. (satisfied with strength but as for size im skeptical)
So my questions is; is it because cyp takes time to take full effect into my system? Or am i expecting to much to soon, and it is already working? What should i expect from the prop? Lastly what should i expect from the overall cycle.

As for research that ive done on my own.. ive read up on books, websitees, forums, doctors, nurses everything u can think of but forums give you a more personal touch to it, thats why i am turning to guys
THANKS!

 

[Heavy D]

Oh boy here we go again.

 

[123xyz]

well can i get something thats a lil better than "oh boy here we go again"

 

[ChrisWho?]

You just said you started at 160lb and your 175lbs now. Thats 15lbs, how are you not putting on size? Looks like you answered your own question there guy.

 

[ChrisWho?]

And yes long E test peak in the 4-6 week range. Why taper? Thats the incorrect way to do it and theres no advantage, run 500mg every week mon and thur injections 1ml each inject.

 

[123xyz]

yaa took my dbol 30mg ed.for 4weeks
drank a gallon a day in water

and well if you dont mind me askin, how should i finsh off after week 9 than?

 

[ChrisWho?]

just take a consistant 2ml which if your test is 250mg/ml that will be 500mg a week. Test builds up in your body so theres no reason really to taper, It'll also keep blood levels stable which will help wit avoiding sides. Is that what you were asking? 2 weeks after last pin start your pct.

 

[ChrisWho?]

are you still taking the prop or was that a kickstart?

 

[123xyz]

noo well by the sounds of it i took em in the wrong order

i took cyp firstt (todays my last injection of cyp)..letting the cyp kick in kinda around the sametime prop does
nxt week i start my prop vial

 

[ChrisWho?]

You can still run it, the only thing is test prop needs to be pinned every other day, thats why its usually used as a kickstart to the long E tests. It's hits your blood stream within the day and has a short halflfe so it's outa your system just as fast as it was in. But if you have enough prop and pinning dont bother you, youll be set.

 

[123xyz]

cool man thanks for the solid advise.

If anyone else has an opinon either negative or positive

 

[warlord_wang]

Did prop give you a increased appetite?

 

[Hcc5881]

oh boy here we go again.

x2

 

[123xyz]

well its my second week on prop, im yet to see muscle mass gains i have the same physic muscle wise but i have gone up in weight i am currently between 178lbs-180lbs. and ya im grubbin dwn alot more food than i would normally do. I usually do a meal 1hr later snack/shake. and just keep on doing that thru out the dayy.

I was also wondering if doing dbol orals at the end of my cycle be bad ?
any thoughts or suggetions

 

[Die$eL~Man]

Im looking for some feedback on my cycle. (i KNow i should have done this before i started.)

im 21
5'7"
i was 160 before i started my cycle. 5 weeks in im currently 175
Im cycling with Test cyp & test prop (cyp =med grade, USP; prop=geneza)
since its my first cycle i was told to start low and work may up and ease back down

cc's ever monday/thursday
week1 .5 week2 .75 week3 1 week4 1.25 week5 1.5 week6 1.75 week7 2 week8 2 week9 2 week10 1.75 week11 1.5 week12 1.25
Than post cycle therapy (pct) for 2 weeks

im eating around 3000calories to 5000calories a day (food/weight gainer/protien shakes)
Lifting heavy mon-fri
In my fitfh week ive notice big strength increases in my over all lifts, as for size, im not sure if ive put on muscle mass or if its just all the shakes or both. (satisfied with strength but as for size im skeptical)
So my questions is; is it because cyp takes time to take full effect into my system? Or am i expecting to much to soon, and it is already working? What should i expect from the prop? Lastly what should i expect from the overall cycle.

As for research that ive done on my own.. ive read up on books, websitees, forums, doctors, nurses everything u can think of but forums give you a more personal touch to it, thats why i am turning to guys
THANKS!

what brand gear are you running ?

 

[123xyz]

the cyp was usp
prop is geneza.

 

[Cobra Strike]

well its my second week on prop, im yet to see muscle mass gains i have the same physic muscle wise but i have gone up in weight i am currently between 178lbs-180lbs. and ya im grubbin dwn alot more food than i would normally do. I usually do a meal 1hr later snack/shake. and just keep on doing that thru out the dayy.

I was also wondering if doing dbol orals at the end of my cycle be bad ?
any thoughts or suggetions

Stop drinking so many shakes. Eat instead...your body wants food. Your not going to get massive off of test...Id be very happy with what you got already. Honestly after you post cycle therapy (pct)...dont run any gear for a few years because you are no where near your natty potential and your to young. Dbol is not a good idea to run at the end of your cycle unless you want to spend a while trying to get rid of the water weight.

I actually think you went the right way with your test...prop last...that way the time you have to wait between cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) is extremely shorter...that is something your def going to want to research so you know when to start your post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[123xyz]

ya ino as for me being to young i no, i was just being stubborn and well gave it a try. this will be my only cycle for atleast a couple of years guaranteed.

and thanks for the dbol advise

ya and thats how I had figured out the cyp first than prop and i had figured my post cycle therapy (pct) will be no longer than two weeks

 

[Cobra Strike]

ya ino as for me being to young i no, i was just being stubborn and well gave it a try. this will be my only cycle for atleast a couple of years guaranteed.

and thanks for the dbol advise

ya and thats how I had figured out the cyp first than prop and i had figured my post cycle therapy (pct) will be no longer than two weeks

well actually lets call it serm therapy...Im not sure what your time off will be from cycle to serm therapy but your serm therapy should last 4 weeks

 

[123xyz]

well this is my problem i guess, i till this point i can not find a reliable person for Nolvadex or ne serm products.
Im still trying im hoping to get Nolvadex 20mgs/day
but if not i am going to have to look for over the counter..which im still doing my research on