First cycle for an older guy.

[dcovec]

My lifting partner is 48, 5'11'' and 205lbs. He's been lifting 5 years and gone from lard to a good base. (from around 185@28% bf to aprox 16%). Good, clean diet, good training schedule. No known health issues. The last year has been a real uphill fight. He's definitely stuck. His primary goal is to continue mass building without adding too much more in the BF dept.

His plan for a first cycle is pretty simple, 500 of cyp weekly for ten weeks. Liquidex during (.25 ed) and clomid for 4 to 6 weeks starting at about week 12.

Two questions for the board:

First- at his age are there any alternative anti-e strategies that you might recommend?

Second, he's considering crashing some post cycle in order to qualify for long term Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). Any thoughts about this?

Thanks.

Dave C.

 

['tensity]

My lifting partner is 48, 5'11'' and 205lbs. He's been lifting 5 years and gone from lard to a good base. (from around 185@28% bf to aprox 16%). Good, clean diet, good training schedule. No known health issues. The last year has been a real uphill fight. He's definitely stuck. His primary goal is to continue mass building without adding too much more in the BF dept.

His plan for a first cycle is pretty simple, 500 of cyp weekly for ten weeks. Liquidex during (.25 ed) and clomid for 4 to 6 weeks starting at about week 12.

Two questions for the board:

First- at his age are there any alternative anti-e strategies that you might recommend?

Second, he's considering crashing some post cycle in order to qualify for long term Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). Any thoughts about this?

Thanks.

Dave C.

Wow, planning to crash post cycle is a new one and completely counter-productive to what he seems to want to accomplish in the first place. I don't have any answers to the specific questions, though I would offer, if wanting to keep bf in check, maybe throw in some fina or Winstrol (winny), but could cut fairly well on the cyp if diet is strict, which you say it is.

 

[Spectre]

I wouldn't bother with a cycle at 48 honestly, check out HRT.. I found bulking even at 31 can be frustrating, as I gain allot of fat vs LBM.. GH works wonders for us at this point.. good luck

 

[Trevdog]

The cycle looks fine.

As far as anti androgens, I am thinking of using aromasin in the future rather than arimidex since aromasin has a more favorable effect on lipid profiles. But then my cycles are much heavier.

I also don't care for the intentional crash idea.

 

[dcovec]

Thanks

Thanks bro's - I'll pass on your suggestions. As to Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), my friend scored upper level normal last time he tested- his Doc refused to even consider Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) after seeing his test levels.

Dave C.

 

[feelnfit]

hey guys i am 45 and am doing a bulking cycle starting sept-1. so 48 is not too old to bulk!
i am bulking for 16 weeks or so using 4 on 2 coasting.
swithching from test-prop to test cyp back to test enth. also eq and armidex and maybe deca too. thats it short and hard. cycle would look like this:
weeks1-4 test prop 750mgwk
deca 600mg wk
armidex 1 pill ed
weeks5-7 test-cyp 400mgwk
deca 300mgwk
armidex .25ed
clomid-day-1 -500mg, day 2- 300 mgs, day 4-200mgs, then for next 2 weeks 50mg ed
weeks 8-12 start over again.
this works very well.

 

[JohnnyB]

Have your friend go to the Dr before starting anything. Get someblood work done to see if his test is low now, forget about the crashing. If he has low test he'll get a script.

JohnnyB

 

[JohnnyB]

Ho yeah I'm 47 on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) and do cycles

JohnnyB

 

[JohnnyB]

hey guys i am 45 and am doing a bulking cycle starting sept-1. so 48 is not too old to bulk!
i am bulking for 16 weeks or so using 4 on 2 coasting.
swithching from test-prop to test cyp back to test enth. also eq and armidex and maybe deca too. thats it short and hard. cycle would look like this:
weeks1-4 test prop 750mgwk
deca 600mg wk
armidex 1 pill ed
weeks5-7 test-cyp 400mgwk
deca 300mgwk
armidex .25ed
clomid-day-1 -500mg, day 2- 300 mgs, day 4-200mgs, then for next 2 weeks 50mg ed
weeks 8-12 start over again.
this works very well.

Bro how many cycles have you done and why so much switching of drugs?

JohnnyB

 

[Spectre]

I didn't really explain myself well, sorry bro's. He doesn't seem to be natty lean but has made some awesome strides, I'm sure he looks and feels allot better.

But for us natty fat guys (I'm one of them), bulking can be frustrating but with even 4ius of GH I don't get fat and feel great.

Get tested post cycle, it will be low.. lol..

I plan on being on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for life with a few cycles now and again for maintenance if needed..

S

 

[JohnnyB]

He could do 400mg of test enan or cyp and feel better. With adding muscle, it all depends on his diet.

JohnnyB