First cycle need advices please

[Oliver141414]

Hi all
I am 29 years old, 178 cm, 71 kg, 4 years tranning.
Im planning to do my first cycle:
Weeks 1-13: EQ @600mg
Weeks 1-14: Test enanthate@750mg
Please some advices.
Thanks

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

Welcome to 'Ology!! Sounds fucking solid bro! Although truly you should do testosterone ONLY for your first and second cycles. Also your big concern should be about estrogen conversion, so use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) thru out until post cycle therapy (pct) of nolva&clomid OR torem

 

[Oliver141414]

Welcome to 'Ology!! Sounds fucking solid bro! Although truly you should do testosterone ONLY for your first and second cycles. Also your big concern should be about estrogen conversion, so use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) thru out until post cycle therapy (pct) of nolva&clomid OR torem

Thanks for replying bro, I was thinking to use Nolva 20mg bt for how long, and do I use it durring the cycle, couldnt get Clomid,
My friend did the same cycle above and he got great results,so i was wondering to do the same,but about ur advice, would 750mg test per week , of 14 week cycle be enough?

 

[alexus hensicus]

the test is more than enough. 3j has is saying on his profile.... Its 80% diet,15% exercise and 5% gear. If your natural test levels are still inn range for you then you might not want that much test... But for sure after a few weeks, following that equation and your gear your going to be looking good

 

[GPRO]

71kg's aint much bro, whats your fat %?

 

[Oliver141414]

the test is more than enough. 3j has is saying on his profile.... Its 80% diet,15% exercise and 5% gear. If your natural test levels are still inn range for you then you might not want that much test... But for sure after a few weeks, following that equation and your gear your going to be looking good

Thanks for replying bro, so you think 750 mg test per week for 14 weeks will be enough and good to go? should i take nolva durring the cycle or after?

 

[Oliver141414]

71kg's aint much bro, whats your fat %?

Yeah not much at all thats why i wanna have cycle, dont know infact whats my fat % but from the way i look guess not much at all

 

[GPRO]

Shouldn't be your reason to cycle to be honest.
At that height you could gain atleast another 10-15kg's natural if you diet is in check and you don't overtrain. Mind posting a picture so we can judge some better?

 

[Oliver141414]

Shouldn't be your reason to cycle to be honest.
At that height you could gain atleast another 10-15kg's natural if you diet is in check and you don't overtrain. Mind posting a picture so we can judge some better?

Thanks for the reply, thats a pic hope more advices

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

yeahh,, I think honestly you shouldn't fuck with the juice. You got plenty going on naturally. looks like about 10-12% to me

 

[GPRO]

Looks like a decent build, not for AAS tho.
I've seen alot of people start on less so you're further than that, but i'd train atleast one more year to see how far you can get. Your shoulders and traps are gonna get big if you keep working them!

If you think you're already plateauing, switch around your workouts and use different programs. If you're on like 4 sets of 8, switch to pyramide or like Yates style. Also adjust your food, up cals bit by by and check the mirror to see if you bloat or gain any fat and ofcourse see how the workouts go.

 

[Oliver141414]

Looks like a decent build, not for AAS tho.
I've seen alot of people start on less so you're further than that, but i'd train atleast one more year to see how far you can get. Your shoulders and traps are gonna get big if you keep working them!

If you think you're already plateauing, switch around your workouts and use different programs. If you're on like 4 sets of 8, switch to pyramide or like Yates style. Also adjust your food, up cals bit by by and check the mirror to see if you bloat or gain any fat and ofcourse see how the workouts go.

Thanks bro, ill work on ur advice,bt i really wanna do a cycle, coz i feel like my body is block on this weight and this size and i was wondering what u think about my cycle as a cycle. thanks

 

[Oliver141414]

yeahh,, I think honestly you shouldn't fuck with the juice. You got plenty going on naturally. looks like about 10-12% to me

maybe 10 % any adice about my cycle bro?

 

[GPRO]

If we really can't talk you out of your first cycle, try this one:

Week 1-10 Test cyp 500mg/EW (divided by 2 shots)
Week 1-4 Dianabol/Turinabol 30-50mg/ED (can also pick Winstrol/Anavar, higher dose)
Week 12-15 Nolvadex 20mg/ED

Can optionally pick up HCG if you want.
You can probably go with 250 to 300mg's total per week aswell looking at your FFM, but that's up to you.

 

[Oliver141414]

If we really can't talk you out of your first cycle, try this one:

Week 1-10 Test cyp 500mg/EW (divided by 2 shots)
Week 1-4 Dianabol/Turinabol 30-50mg/ED (can also pick Winstrol/Anavar, higher dose)
Week 12-15 Nolvadex 20mg/ED

Can optionally pick up HCG if you want.
You can probably go with 250 to 300mg's total per week aswell looking at your FFM, but that's up to you.

Thanks a lot for the advice bro,you have been very helpful.Ill keep you updated about the results.

 

[Da Hammer]

Please explain why you give him this advise so maybe I could learn something here. Why not test alone if he is going to do a cycle??? He would get good results with Test alone if its gonna happen regardless.

If we really can't talk you out of your first cycle, try this one:

Week 1-10 Test cyp 500mg/EW (divided by 2 shots)
Week 1-4 Dianabol/Turinabol 30-50mg/ED (can also pick Winstrol/Anavar, higher dose)
Week 12-15 Nolvadex 20mg/ED

Can optionally pick up HCG if you want.
You can probably go with 250 to 300mg's total per week aswell looking at your FFM, but that's up to you.

 

[GPRO]

Kickstarting a cycle is always nice with some good gains, dbol and tbol usually don't really give harsh sides (little acne or bloat perhaps). Noone likes to wait 4-5 weeks for test to kick in. If you are patient you can go test only.