First cycle : SUST 400 and anavar. HELP

[Zarch]

Hello all!

I've been a long time lingerer, first time poster...obviously. At any rate I truly hate to be one of these posters and I am already prepared for people to tell me to google it but I have some questions.

A little background, I've never touched anything other than prohormones. I am 22 just finished a 10 month deployment to Kuwait/Iraq/Saudi and I'm finally ready to jump to the dark side. I am currently home on block leave and my friend from a reputable UG lab in NJ threw me some SUST 400 (10 mil) and anavar. (50 pills/50mgs) ..for free.

So obviously I am going to pin it, but the information he's giving me is making me a bit skeptical. He claims I should pin every two weeks and half a pill of var 5 days on two days off... That seems a little sketchy to me.

Any opinions as to what I should do? Is he right? Tips on how to mail it back to my duty station in Colorado? Protocol for PCT?

Please help me or PM me if you have good information!

Thank you gentleman.

 

[fitguy22]

thats not enough for a full cycle. for your first cycle it should be test only so you know how your body responds. and sustanon has short esters as well as long so you should pin it Eod to get its benefits.

 

[snowpatrol123]

You can get away with sust e3d - some guys I know do it once a week (even I did on my first cycle) but I wouldn't push it to once per two weeks. You'll need more than 10ml to run a proper 12wk cycle though.

Side note...sust400 sounds odd; I've heard of test 400 but normally sust is "sust 250"...but whatever.

PCT should be in a sticky somewhere here but essentially you'll want four weeks of nolva @ 40mg ED for the first two, 20mg ED for the last two and optionally four weeks of clomid concurrent with the nolva at 50/50/25/25 or thereabouts

Having an AI and possibly using it preventatively would be a good idea as well.

 

[Zarch]

thats not enough for a full cycle. for your first cycle it should be test only so you know how your body responds. and sustanon has short esters as well as long so you should pin it Eod to get its benefits.

Define enough? You mean another bottle would be necessary?

 

[fitguy22]

oh i overlooked, you said 400? i thought it was susta-250. well you can split that into 2 shots a week. total of 400mg a week. that would be enough for 10 weeks. but if you had one more vial than you can have 3 shots a week with 600mg a week for 12-14 weeks. which is a good cycle for a first timer.

 

[tbonexl]

There's no such thing as Sustanon 400. People mix shit together and want to call it things that its not.

Just because somebody gave u something for free doesn't mean u should use it. Clearly u have no idea about the pros and cons as to what may happen. It's not like a can of spinach to popeye. A lot more to it then that. U need to do your homework!

 

[Zarch]

There's no such thing as Sustanon 400. People mix shit together and want to call it things that its not.

Just because somebody gave u something for free doesn't mean u should use it. Clearly u have no idea about the pros and cons as to what may happen. It's not like a can of spinach to popeye. A lot more to it then that. U need to do your homework!

I'm pretty sure you are incorrect sir, google sust 400. ...that is if you believe in the power of research and doing homework.

Thanks everyone else for the useful posts,

 

[Teutonic]

Welcome Zarch

Thank you for your service,,now...I ve heard of sus400 but as indicated if it s sust a 2 a week pin is fine with an e o d pin at a lower dose optimum to take advantage of the prop ester.

No one has addressed the half a pill of anavar ....is it anadrol 50 ?I think an aspirin would be more anabolic than .5 a pill anavar...

I believe in the power of research and homework...2 Bachelors and a Masters schooled me in that and my 50 yr of age taught me to not ask to be spoon fed basic info by asking the amount of questions you did in your opening post and then popping off to a seasoned member w 3000 posts.

I believe an apology is in order son. Or you can take what I said like a raw boot..pop off to ME and get shit canned. There is no way in hell I could physiologically give less of a shit. But you should hang and learn and make friends......

Ya ll have a good evening.

 

[Zarch]

I apologize for my previous posts I did not mean to offend anyone. Just looking for information. I promise I do my research but I also enjoy anecdotal information, why else lurk forums?

 

[snowpatrol123]

I apologize for my previous posts I did not mean to offend anyone. Just looking for information. I promise I do my research but I also enjoy anecdotal information, why else lurk forums?

To sum it up then, basically my advice would be...get sust 250 (afaik that is the only real sustanon) and enough to run 500mg/wk for 12wks....which is three vials

Skip the fake-sounding var, you won't need it...

Make sure you have PCT drugs and an AI in your possession before you start

Regarding getting it to your duty station...the only thing I can really say (being canadian) is that I managed to run sust while doing infantry phase training, but officer side mail was not screened whatsoever so there was a pretty low risk associated with it. If you are NCM it is more likely that you could run into problems (just my opinion) and may not be worth the risk, depending on your goals.

Which MOC are you?

 

[Teutonic]

no harm no foul mate

I just try to keep these fluctuating hormonal surges civil..
Again...welcome

 

[Zarch]

To sum it up then, basically my advice would be...get sust 250 (afaik that is the only real sustanon) and enough to run 500mg/wk for 12wks....which is three vials

Skip the fake-sounding var, you won't need it...

Make sure you have PCT drugs and an AI in your possession before you start

Regarding getting it to your duty station...the only thing I can really say (being canadian) is that I managed to run sust while doing infantry phase training, but officer side mail was not screened whatsoever so there was a pretty low risk associated with it. If you are NCM it is more likely that you could run into problems (just my opinion) and may not be worth the risk, depending on your goals.

Which MOC are you?

I am an infantryman just returning from Iraq. Can't really go into much detail about it but I'm stationed in Colorado and I am originally from NJ so I need to ship it domestically.


Also, the box looks legit. Sealed and all. Did a little research it's only one vial of BIO-tech ts400 apparently from Uruguay but it looks G2G....apparently painful pips but I am indifferent. My only concern is if I can't get a second vial should I mix and match? I mean grab another vial in Colorado...

Any thoughts?

 

[m314]

You don't really need another vial. 300 mg/week is a decent first cycle, especially with var.

Draw .37 or .38 ml out of the vial for each injection. Use slin pins. Inject twice a week for 13 weeks. Take one anavar pill per day for either the first 50 or last 50 days of the cycle. Stay away from alcohol while you're on the var.

An AI like aromasin would be a good idea on cycle. You can get cheap blood work a few weeks into the cycle to see if you need it. Estradiol above the normal range isn't healthy, even if you aren't getting estrogen related side effects.

 

[snowpatrol123]

Mix and match is fine...if you have the option I would just get test enanthate or cypionate rather than a blend of esters (sustanon)

Finish sust400, swap to equivalent dosing of test250 or w/e you end up with and you shouldn't even notice the difference.

example dosing
wk 1-8 pins M/Tr: 0.6cc (250mg) sust400 - 500mg/wk
wk 9-12 pins M/Tr: 1cc (250mg) test-e 250mg/ml - 500mg/wk
wk 15-18: PCT

 

[Teutonic]

I take it your flying...

I d WAIT to start this cycle until you have secured another 2-4 vials and a ai as well as a source for pins, hcg and the old pct meds....

If you start to pin w o proper prep and securing all variables you may be in for a rough ride when you run out...if you do...
Your young and READY TO GET IT ON...I know..I lost an eye and knee on a dynamic entry going horribly wrong so..

Get yourself moved back home.
Get to training and eating and put your ear to the ground and start making connects there and here...and ALL will come into play in good time.
Or charge in and then realize I m out of gear ( ammo), I m growing tit s cuz I forgot to secure an ai for the estro ( body armour)..cycles over and I got know pct to get me over the inevitable hormone crash..( extraction plan ) so that you can re start your natural test production ( rtb-return to base).

Copy that ?

 

[Zarch]

I take it your flying...

I d WAIT to start this cycle until you have secured another 2-4 vials and a ai as well as a source for pins, hcg and the old pct meds....

If you start to pin w o proper prep and securing all variables you may be in for a rough ride when you run out...if you do...
Your young and READY TO GET IT ON...I know..I lost an eye and knee on a dynamic entry going horribly wrong so..

Get yourself moved back home.
Get to training and eating and put your ear to the ground and start making connects there and here...and ALL will come into play in good time.
Or charge in and then realize I m out of gear ( ammo), I m growing tit s cuz I forgot to secure an ai for the estro ( body armour)..cycles over and I got know pct to get me over the inevitable hormone crash..( extraction plan ) so that you can re start your natural test production ( rtb-return to base).

Copy that ?

Once I get to my duty station I'll have sources for needles, PCT, proper diets. ETC. But what do you recommend? How many more vials? Is this not adequate enough for a first cycle?

I don't plan on pinning until I have everything on deck.

 

[Teutonic]

bro

do the math. Tell me what dose a week you are gonna run...what your vials are dosed.

I know things that use gas or go boom .
So if at if your gonna shoot a 3 round burst every week ( 3 cc at 1.5cc ... 2 a week) w 10 round clip s how many times you gonna light your pin spot up !

 

[GOTGrowth]

There's no such thing as Sustanon 400. People mix shit together and want to call it things that its not.

Just because somebody gave u something for free doesn't mean u should use it. Clearly u have no idea about the pros and cons as to what may happen. It's not like a can of spinach to popeye. A lot more to it then that. U need to do your homework!

You got it tbone! Research.

 

[snowpatrol123]

I already kind of mathed it out for him a few posts ago...

 

[Wrasse02]

There's no such thing as Sustanon 400. People mix shit together and want to call it things that its not.

Just because somebody gave u something for free doesn't mean u should use it. Clearly u have no idea about the pros and cons as to what may happen. It's not like a can of spinach to popeye. A lot more to it then that. U need to do your homework!

Im gonna go with this. Especially on the homework part.