First Cycle, Test E Only. Looking for some constructive criticism

[asmit10]

Long time lurker here but this is my first post.
Ok so im 22yo 5'10 175 15-20% BF. I gained 30 lbs in the past few years and cant seem to gain anymore for a year now. Diet is pretty solid the occasional cheat day but overall I pretty much know what I need to eat. Figure its time to try my first cycle. Ok so I've been doing alot of research trying to put it together and this is what I've come up with.

Test E 500mg/wk 250mg Monday&Thursday weeks 1-12

Arimidex .5 mg EOD if I start to show signs of gyno (stop after last test injection?)

HCG 500iu/wk 250iu Wednesday&Saturday weeks 1-12

PCT:

Clomid 50/25/25/25mg weeks 15-18

Nolvadex 40/20/20/20mg weeks 15-18

Please give me any advice you have. I'm still in the planning stages so I haven't ordered anything yet.

 

[Jarry199]

Howsit Mate,

To be very honest mate i think you are overkilling it with PCT's, for such a small course you would only need nolvadex if you running test only.

Why not run a test prop 100 instead of Test E, much faster acting, you will get very decent gains considering its your first course.

 

[asmit10]

Thanks for the input man,
Yeah I hear you about the PCT. That's what I was thinking too but I kept reading other people's first cycle logs and it seems like nolva and clomid together is the classic PCT. I'll think about just running nolva bc it is a pretty light cycle. The sides just got me a little nervous and I want to keep all the gains possible!
And it seems like most people recommend the test e only cycle for first timers so that's what I've been researching. Haven't really thought about running anything else.

 

[Jarry199]

Test prop is better for first cycle, Test E you wont really see gains, you need to stack it with something and run it for much longer. If you are persistent on taking Test E maybe front load it with Dbol to spike your test levels.

My first ever cycle was Test prop 100, ran it at only 200mg per week, made me eat like a mad man, and i picked up 8kg over 5 weeks.

Let me know what you decided and how it goes! good luck mate

 

[tbonexl]

Test prop is better for first cycle, Test E you wont really see gains, you need to stack it with something and run it for much longer. If you are persistent on taking Test E maybe front load it with Dbol to spike your test levels.

My first ever cycle was Test prop 100, ran it at only 200mg per week, made me eat like a mad man, and i picked up 8kg over 5 weeks.

Let me know what you decided and how it goes! good luck mate

This is horrible advice! Test is test bud. I don't know what kinda broscience your trying to preach here but it won't go over well at all. Op, disregard jarry's posts.

Pct should consist of nolva and clomid. No such thing as a light cycle. Everything will shut down your natural test regardless of the dose. Being that your 22, I would urge that you wait till your 25 to start a cycle. Your brain and endocrine system are still developing. Starting a cycle at your age can cause immaturity issues and cause low testosterone levels. Give the ology faq's thread a read. It has everything you need to know before you start your cycle. Jarry, you should give it a read too before giving out advice to others...

 

[cbburrr]

OP, plase take what Tbone says to heart.

Some young dudes get away with a cycle, but many have problems getting their natty test levels back.

In the few years I've been following steroid forums I have seen quite a few guys in their early 20's looking for help to get their peckers and libido working again.

Guys that have great abs, and chicks checking them out but no desire to go smash all those chicks, and the ever present possibility when the do take home that young hotty that their pecker wont work.


And Jerry! WTF man, please dont give anymore advice. That was just fucked up man.

 

[adie1981]

Test prop is better for first cycle, Test E you wont really see gains, you need to stack it with something and run it for much longer. If you are persistent on taking Test E maybe front load it with Dbol to spike your test levels.

My first ever cycle was Test prop 100, ran it at only 200mg per week, made me eat like a mad man, and i picked up 8kg over 5 weeks.

Let me know what you decided and how it goes! good luck mate

hi mate,

dont stack anything for your first cycle, you need to see how your body reacts with test, if you stack anything then youre not going to know whats causing sides. i did my first test E only cycle last year and it ran smoothly. This was my cycle so you can see, i didnt have any sides either but every person is different.

i cant stress enough how beneficial and important getting your blood work done pre/mid/post cycle. this will help indicate if you need to change anything in your cycle, im UK based and got mine done at a clinic in manchester, and sheffield so google to see where the nearest clinic is for you.

Test E only 500 per week week 1-12 (monday & thursday)
armidex week 2-11 0.5mg Eod then after mid cycle blood work i had to drop it to 0.25mg e3d as my estrogen was really low (this is why blood work is important for things like this)
hcg 1000iu per week, week 4-12
PCT - clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20
Water intake - 4 ltrs a day min

I tended to stick to shoulders for the injection when its only 1 jab per shoulder a week, youll find that you wont get much pip (post injection pain) from test E, unless youre jabbing your quads which i tend to stay clear of unless i wanted to walk like ive shit myself for a few days with a limp.

i loved my first cycle and enjoyed it start to finish to be confident and enjoy it mate, theres not much more you need to know really, try not to get too confused with loads of different advice mate, it only makes you nervous. keep it simple and smash the gym to pieces mate...good luck

 

[oldmusclemike]

Test prop is better for first cycle, Test E you wont really see gains, you need to stack it with something and run it for much longer. If you are persistent on taking Test E maybe front load it with Dbol to spike your test levels.

My first ever cycle was Test prop 100, ran it at only 200mg per week, made me eat like a mad man, and i picked up 8kg over 5 weeks.

Let me know what you decided and how it goes! good luck mate

Jarry please refrain from giving a young newbie bad advice (as I see it). You are suggesting stacking and Dbol and prop for a first cycle and that is NOT good. AS you he is too young. The prop will have to be injected EOD and that isn't very good for a newbie.

Long time lurker here but this is my first post.
Ok so im 22yo 5'10 175 15-20% BF. I gained 30 lbs in the past few years and cant seem to gain anymore for a year now. Diet is pretty solid the occasional cheat day but overall I pretty much know what I need to eat. Figure its time to try my first cycle. Ok so I've been doing alot of research trying to put it together and this is what I've come up with.

Test E 500mg/wk 250mg Monday&Thursday weeks 1-12

Arimidex .5 mg EOD if I start to show signs of gyno (stop after last test injection?)

HCG 500iu/wk 250iu Wednesday&Saturday weeks 1-12

PCT:

Clomid 50/25/25/25mg weeks 15-18

Nolvadex 40/20/20/20mg weeks 15-18

Please give me any advice you have. I'm still in the planning stages so I haven't ordered anything yet.

So OP you know you are a bit young and should wait !

You should not keep your AI on hand to wait and se some Gyno. If you see the Gyno then it has started and taken effect (since you see it) and then you have to reverse it. AI is for prevention.

Please educate yourself about high and low Estrogen. AI is to manage /control your E level. There are many unwanted sides with E levels high n low. Read the sticky's about Estrogen and Prolactin.
I think your dose of Arimidex is high and should be run .25 EOD to start.

You monitor all this with your BW. Get BW.