You guys don't get it, their is no such thing as "giving you an atheltic build" Winstrol (winny) is anabolic, and will not make you hold any water at all. If you are very lean it will make you hard, but it goes away when you come off, that is why people use it precontest or prephotoshoot. If you gained 16lbs off it, that is good, I would honestly wonder how much muscle you actually had on your body to gain 16 lbs of lean muscle in 4 weeks even with gear because that really isn't normal. Everyone i know who used Winstrol (winny) in real life, not the boards was kind of disappointed with it, and they used real zambons. I will say this though, if you are 160 and you could achieve 200 with moderate bodyfat with your genetics naturally, anthing will make you grow, but you will not be able to maintain it since you dont know shit. And i am not referring to you as i don't know you, it is just a statement.