first cycle with cypionate help
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chickenwing
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I believe its 500 mg week.250 twice a week
Zeek
Community Veteran
Hi 2Pac, need your age also and training experience.
As a rule of thumb 250mg is really not enough for a cycle. You would want to start with at least 400mg and most of the guys are going to steer you more toward 500mg/week.
at 170lbs there is probably much you can still gain without touching the needle quite yet. Lets hear what you have to say first before going there
As a rule of thumb 250mg is really not enough for a cycle. You would want to start with at least 400mg and most of the guys are going to steer you more toward 500mg/week.
at 170lbs there is probably much you can still gain without touching the needle quite yet. Lets hear what you have to say first before going there
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
Ya like zeek said you may need help with your diet first. At 59 170 aas is not the anwser to get big. Food is! People get the idea that steroids make you huge. Well that's not the case. The fact is you need to eat while your on gear is well. Ya, its easy to gain weight on cycle but keeping it on after is the hard part. So if you can't gain weight now how are you going to keep gains after your cyfle? You won't!! But like zeek said t let's see what you have to say.
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
250 a week is a waste and 15lbs of good muscle could be acomplished with a good diet. Don't say yours is good cuz you weight 170. We knows its not.
Thanks for theu advice. I have a good diet. I eat like a hoarse. I don't have trouble putting on weight. Id just like to speed this process up.
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
Ok well out on 20 more!! Lol trust me your gonna hear that a lot. And if you gain easy why use steroids. They just mess your nuts up, cause prolactin issues, close growth plates, and so much more!@ Why if you gain easy do you want these future problems? Also if you gain easy why are you 179. There's just things you should know. You don't stick a needle in your ass and get big. There not magical and should be used when ones natural test starts to drop and is at his or hers potential genetic max.
what to do
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Not being a ass but bigherm is right. IF you are a easy gainer keep eating and training. I know that every one want to get big and aas is going to help. I am sure no matter what we tell you on this sight you are going to do what ever you want..
My question is you said you wanted to do 250mg a week. If you did your research you would know that is not enough. At no time did you say you had anything for AI..... or PCT....... Have you even looked into that yet. Do you have it on hand. You have your gear. Do you know it is even good. Are you sure you are ready to start ? You eat like a horse. Is it pizza and beer...... YOU think you eat a lot. Are you eating clean. 300grams of pro a week if not more. Have you even looked at what your meals are going to be during this time.
NO. I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE READY.
BUT IF YOU START GOOD LUCK AND WE WILL BE HERE WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND TRY TO HELP OUT..........
My question is you said you wanted to do 250mg a week. If you did your research you would know that is not enough. At no time did you say you had anything for AI..... or PCT....... Have you even looked into that yet. Do you have it on hand. You have your gear. Do you know it is even good. Are you sure you are ready to start ? You eat like a horse. Is it pizza and beer...... YOU think you eat a lot. Are you eating clean. 300grams of pro a week if not more. Have you even looked at what your meals are going to be during this time.
NO. I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE READY.
BUT IF YOU START GOOD LUCK AND WE WILL BE HERE WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND TRY TO HELP OUT..........
Zeek
Community Veteran
Ok 2Pac
You can see how we all think and we have given you our 2 cents, basically you are going to be better off waiting just a while longer.
If your mind is still set on starting that first cycle we may as well make sure you do it the right way.
Start with this thread. It explains PCT in depth and PCT is going to be the most important part of any cycle.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard-pcts.html
Once you have fully understood the above you have to choose what to run and for how long. On a first cycle test is best and nothing more. Massive gains can be made on a test only first cycle. Go with a longer ester as opposed to a shorter since this being your first time you are not going to want to inject daily or every other day.
Test C or E
Run it for 12 weeks at 500mg per week split into two shots.
I'm not a fan of anti e's during a cycle but do like to have some on hand just in case. Since test only have nolvadex on hand before you start the cycle. If your nipples even start to itch at all or feel sore you want to start taking it at 40mg per day until the symptoms go away.
Remember have all of your PCT meds and anti e's on hand before starting the cycle. Eat big! I don't mean candy I mean straight food. 2 grams of protein for every gram of body weight. Eat excessive calories also, try to keep them clean if possible.
Anything else feel free to ask, the guys will help you especially if they see you put some effort into researching what your proper PCT, trainig and diet will be
You can see how we all think and we have given you our 2 cents, basically you are going to be better off waiting just a while longer.
If your mind is still set on starting that first cycle we may as well make sure you do it the right way.
Start with this thread. It explains PCT in depth and PCT is going to be the most important part of any cycle.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard-pcts.html
Once you have fully understood the above you have to choose what to run and for how long. On a first cycle test is best and nothing more. Massive gains can be made on a test only first cycle. Go with a longer ester as opposed to a shorter since this being your first time you are not going to want to inject daily or every other day.
Test C or E
Run it for 12 weeks at 500mg per week split into two shots.
I'm not a fan of anti e's during a cycle but do like to have some on hand just in case. Since test only have nolvadex on hand before you start the cycle. If your nipples even start to itch at all or feel sore you want to start taking it at 40mg per day until the symptoms go away.
Remember have all of your PCT meds and anti e's on hand before starting the cycle. Eat big! I don't mean candy I mean straight food. 2 grams of protein for every gram of body weight. Eat excessive calories also, try to keep them clean if possible.
Anything else feel free to ask, the guys will help you especially if they see you put some effort into researching what your proper PCT, trainig and diet will be
I do have clomid but yea im not ready. Ill wait. There's no rush.
Zeek
Community Veteran
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
Dude trust me your gonna thank us. There's nothing worse then juicing and loseing it all. Knowing you lost muscle and still get the sides and the possible problems later in life, n the money wasted. Ya it sucks and you won't get nothing out of those possible problems. So make sure your ready before you go. Go see 3j in the diet section hell help you with your diet. Put on at least 20lbs
Zeek
Community Veteran
BigHerm, well said!
That is the catch many of these guys don't look at. They see gaining 20lbs and looking buff. They miss the point that without a good base they won't keep shit! and then they just screwed with their natural hormone production plus whatever else goes wrong for nothing.
That is the catch many of these guys don't look at. They see gaining 20lbs and looking buff. They miss the point that without a good base they won't keep shit! and then they just screwed with their natural hormone production plus whatever else goes wrong for nothing.
intenselifter
New member
good decision to wait.. It would be highly unlikely to mke those kind of gains on 250/week anyways.
