6' 177lbs experienced lifter with very good cardio. I am getting rdy to start my first full cycle with injectables. Was planning on running test e and eq for 8 wks at 750 and 250 a wk. Would it be better to run for ten weeks at 500 and 200? Also kick starting with 50 mg dbal. All opinions welcome. Thnx in advance.
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If this is you first real cycle depending on what that means. Ditch the eq and save it for another day. Run your test e at 500 / week for 12 weeks.
Not7fifteen
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Agreed with what the above stated, but if you are 6' and only 177 you need to eat or it's not gonna do much for you. I know what I looked like at 177 an I'm also 6'... An also wasn't eating right... I'm at 194 naturally now and eating right and my gains are just ceasing.. That said I also have low testosterone... You've prob got double what i produce naturally.. Start eating bro!
What I mean is I cycled dball for 7 wks due to injury had to stop. And why ditch it does it really matter if I do it now or later from what I've read sides are very mild. I had great results with the dball and no sides. I also have nolvadex on hand in case. And cycle time is kind of sensitive because I go on my honeymoon in the fall and would like to get two cycles in before then. If I run at 12 weeks ill run to long and end up being on a beach somewhere with no gear and cheap weights halfway through my se ins cycle. I figured it would be better to run the short cycle now then do the longer one.
And about the diet that's in check I know I need to eat I just cut all the fat off my body in prep for this. Just hit the grocery for 160 dollars worth of food. Eating is not the issue I went from 180 to 195 off just the dball. I know alot was water but my body puts pounds on fast harder to get them off. I started getting rdy three years ago I was 220 down from 240 and I've been on hardcore training the past three years. Took me forever to loose the last ten pounds but now im finally there and I can't wait to just crush some food believe me
Not7fifteen
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Test e is a long ester, you won't even hit the peak of the cycle til near week six. Time off needs to be equal to time on through post cycle therapy (pct). And it's dbol (short for dianabol) not dball, people will bash newbs for calling it dball... And it is not light on sides I'm not sure where you heard that.
Also you need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like aromasin or arimidex to run while on for sides, nolva won't work to reduce estro, only block at the receptors (serm = selective estrogen receptor modulator)
My advice is read up more and instead of thinking about rushing it and having a limp dick and no libido on your honeymoon and a pissed off wife, hold off, research, get everything you need, and time a 14 week cycle to where you'll be done dealing with wedding shit and off pct for a while before leaving. Allow 20 weeks total, 14 on, 2 weeks before starting pct and 4 weeks of pct.
I was saying that eq is life on side and sorry for the abbreviation mishap didn't realize it was that big a deal. And I know dbol is heavy on sides that's why I ran it first. I haven't been able to find Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at z's does it go by another chemical name or look somewhere else?
Juicer2222
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I dont like this thread. How long have u been working out? when I started it took me a yr to go from 160 to 180 and im 5'9". And I had a shitty diet. U gotta figure other things out before using gear as an easy way out imo.
Not7fifteen
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The Fact that you don't know what a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is, just told everyone on here that you have no clue. Read the sticky's above.
I've been on my current work out stint for three yrs. As far as my overall exp I got about 9 yrs in. There are odviously some gaps on my current program due to injury but physical fitness is not a problem. I am stronger than I've ever been and run a mile or more everytime I go to the gym.
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Right on, I'll do that. Everything you need to know and want to know is right in front of you. Sorry I was a Dic...
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Who f**king knows why they don't have it, just go to rui for that shit.
Juicer2222
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What are your goals? ohhh you sound like one of those anorexic looking guys trying to get bigger, but the first thing they do when they get to the gym is run on the treadmill for 20 minutes.
EQ has a very very long ester and is recommended to be run for 14-16 weeks, also it should be in the 600mg range. Also, it's not Dball, it's Dbol, dianabol, methandienone etc. If you have time for two short cycles(which I doubt w proper PCT) then you have enough time for a long cycle around 12 weeks. Do it right instead of half ass and start reading becasue you are very un educated with this. Read why test is only to be ran for a first cycle, there are reasons for this. I don't feel like parroting why that is being it's on every thread on this front page. Food should be the most important thing on your mind, if you cant eat now all the gains you make will be gone. Dbol for 7 weeks is totally fucking stupid also, you must really hate your liver along side that you crashed your test levels by not injecting exo test during. Not trying to flame, you just need to get this straight before fucking yourslef up, unless your honeymoon is more important.