for those on imt, couple questions
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Gbrad
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I wouldn't be putting pricing online in the open. Secondarily, the two options (IMT vs Primary care doc etc) are not terribly different. I've ran the numbers and it is more but there are other considerations. You are gonna play hell getting good TRT care through primary docs. You may have good luck, but that would be the exception and not the rule.
My advice would be to consider the value and if you have a good PC doc (rare) then go that route. Otherwise you are in for a long frustrating road to get to where u wanna be.
Just my Opinion.
My advice would be to consider the value and if you have a good PC doc (rare) then go that route. Otherwise you are in for a long frustrating road to get to where u wanna be.
Just my Opinion.
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8 dollars a day is really not that much for what you get out of TRT. If thats too much for you start with a smaller program. There are other programs that are a lot less.
Also $750 is just a ball park if you use all the meds. Most guys won't need that much. IMT programs are set up to where your not going to need more than they come with. There is a good chance you will not need all the anastrozole, heck you may not need any at all.
Also just because the program is 200mg a week doesn't mean you can't adjust your dosage to 150mg with the doctors approval.
The reason why IMT sets it up in 200 or 100mg a week is because thats the size of the vials and its easy to give you an idea of pricing.
There are a million ways to set it up.
Also $750 is just a ball park if you use all the meds. Most guys won't need that much. IMT programs are set up to where your not going to need more than they come with. There is a good chance you will not need all the anastrozole, heck you may not need any at all.
Also just because the program is 200mg a week doesn't mean you can't adjust your dosage to 150mg with the doctors approval.
The reason why IMT sets it up in 200 or 100mg a week is because thats the size of the vials and its easy to give you an idea of pricing.
There are a million ways to set it up.
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cybrsage
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If you want to use insurance, go to your local doctor and fight the system. If you are truly in need of TRT, you should be able to get help that way. If you are mostly looking to increase your well being and improve your life, well, insurance does not care about that and does not cover it...so expect to pay all the costs yourself.
If we do assume the worst and it is $750 for 1.5 months, that means it is $1500 for 3 months (I know, I have amazed you with my math skills lol). A car payment is often around $500 a month, which means it is $1500 for 3 months as well. Who the hell can afford that? Well, quite a lot of people, actually.
Keep your car for 10 years instead of trading it in as soon as it is paid off and the remaining 5 years payments you no longer are making can easily pay for 5 years of IMT...and that is worst case pricing. Like IMT Staff said, the cost is usually far lower than that, it really depends on what your goals are and how your body reacts.
Everything comes with a price, you simply have to decide what is important to you and fund that first.
If we do assume the worst and it is $750 for 1.5 months, that means it is $1500 for 3 months (I know, I have amazed you with my math skills lol). A car payment is often around $500 a month, which means it is $1500 for 3 months as well. Who the hell can afford that? Well, quite a lot of people, actually.
Keep your car for 10 years instead of trading it in as soon as it is paid off and the remaining 5 years payments you no longer are making can easily pay for 5 years of IMT...and that is worst case pricing. Like IMT Staff said, the cost is usually far lower than that, it really depends on what your goals are and how your body reacts.Everything comes with a price, you simply have to decide what is important to you and fund that first.
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No no
$750 for 3 months.200mg a week T
800 IU a week HCG
1mg a week anastrozole
30 drawing syringe
30 injecting syringe
30 insulin syringe
1 sharp container
100 alcohol swabs
^^^ that can be broken down, meaning if you don't want a sharp, or alcohol pads we can take that off.
Or lets say someone only used .5mg a week, on his 3 month refill he will not need any anastrozole so he wouldn't pay for it. So that would take off $120.
So $750 is absolute most you would pay for 3 months. We are not like the all inclusive deal that is going to give you minuscule amounts of HCG, 40mg of t 2x a week and charge you $200 month (plus 15 for script every month) no matter what you use. If you use that little, the price will go way down. It all depends on what it takes to get you dialed in.
We do it like this because we want to be up front with our clients, we don't suck you in like a lot of TRT clinics do and then raise our prices every month.
IMT is very straight forward, we don't play games with your health.
Today someone told us a TRT clinic was doing $500 for 5 months, we had a little chuckle with that one
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cybrsage
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I had to go through hell first and fire a few doctors before I found my current one. He is not all that knowledgeable, but he will order any tests I ask for (but not as frequently as I want) and gives me more test than I need. I come here for the knowledge to tell him what I want him to look for, though. All in all, not a good TRT doctor, but since there are FAR worse I consider myself lucky.
Heck, one of the doctors I fired (an endocrinologist) told me the side effects I was having from Androgel were impossible and something else was causing it. The paperwork said 1% of users had my symptoms AND I did a scientific test to prove it was the Androgel. I stopped using for a few weeks and they went away, started again and they started up again...quit again and they went away.
The bad are everywhere, the good, not so much. It is worth it to pay more for the good.
Having been with IMT for the last 3 years I thought I would just mention a few things. I could not get my local doctor to prescribe a decent protocol. If you can that's great. I was not able to make this happen. No way they would prescribe an injectable. From what I can see, most doctors/urologists are very conservative with TRT.
I also end up with a new health plan every year (higher cost with reduced coverage). I expect this to continue every year going forward. I think you could guess what would happen if I left my TRT in the hands of the insurance company. At best, I would be on a gel, no AI, no access to HCG or anything else. The local doc would be shooting for T levels no higher than 600. The local doc never checked E2 levels since he had no intention of prescribing an AI. I just don't see the point in a limited protocol like that.
Instead, I went with IMT. My T levels are in a decent range (enough to actually make a difference in the way I feel). We check my E2 levels and keep them under control with an AI. There is no chance the insurance company can mess with my protocol as they attempt to cut costs or implement "safety measures." I also don't need all that much T to get decent levels and I don't run HCG all the time so my monthly costs are much lower than that rough estimate. Well worth it since the alternative via insurance would be a very rough ride with very little chance of ever getting things dialed in and feeling good.
I also end up with a new health plan every year (higher cost with reduced coverage). I expect this to continue every year going forward. I think you could guess what would happen if I left my TRT in the hands of the insurance company. At best, I would be on a gel, no AI, no access to HCG or anything else. The local doc would be shooting for T levels no higher than 600. The local doc never checked E2 levels since he had no intention of prescribing an AI. I just don't see the point in a limited protocol like that.
Instead, I went with IMT. My T levels are in a decent range (enough to actually make a difference in the way I feel). We check my E2 levels and keep them under control with an AI. There is no chance the insurance company can mess with my protocol as they attempt to cut costs or implement "safety measures." I also don't need all that much T to get decent levels and I don't run HCG all the time so my monthly costs are much lower than that rough estimate. Well worth it since the alternative via insurance would be a very rough ride with very little chance of ever getting things dialed in and feeling good.
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Thanks so much for taking the time to write this!!!!
We have been getting hit with a ton of pricing questions lately and it gets really hard to explain to the new guys.
For instance we got a call today from a guy where pricing was his only concern. The potential client was paying 34 a week and our program was gonna be 54. He said that was a lot more than he was paying so he needed to think about it.
So we asked him what his program consisted of. He stated testosterone. So just testosterone and that was it. We politely let the client know its a good idea to take HCG with your testosterone and that honestly our physicians don't like prescribing testosterone without HCG. We had let the client that know that anastrozole is a medication we use, the client did not know what anastrozole was. He had never even checked his E2 levels once while being on TRT *shakes head* he didn't even know what it was.
The point of my story, to all you new guys reading, we can not compete with a half assed protocol cause thats not how we do it. Our program is about educating clients on the best way to implement and monitor your testosterone replacement therapy. So if price is your only concern our program will most likely not be for you. IMT is not a call up and order what I think is best for me place. We spend a lot of time with our clients teaching them the proper way to get their TRT dialed in and keep it that way. We know our competition and we know our pricing is competitive.
IMT has an open line of communication and we will even answer your questions before we even have paperwork on you (unlike most TRT clinics). Please be respectful about our process and understand there are not many people in this entire world that understand testosterone optimization like we do. So the chances of you being on a great program with your local GP is almost nil.
Another thing to think about is our pricing includes our physician fees. So if your not including that and only comparing your current med pricing then your not comparing apples to apples.
We do not want to shut the door and force new potential clients to produce blood work and new patient forms before giving them a free phone consultation but its getting to the point to where we may just have to do that.
IMT is welcoming new clients at the moment and would love to help you get your TRT dialed in but we do not have to, we have a very large current patient base.
Hope this clears some questions up for you new guys interested in becoming an IMT client.
Thanks again Lucius
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