Front loading long esters

[PapaNoel]

Hello.

Since my next cycle will be test e, EQ and masteron E, they're all fairly long esters.
So i was thinking of frontloading them...

But it would be a fuckton of gear in my body the same time...
I'm going for:
400mg test e
500mg masteron e
600mg EQ

So a frontload would be smt like:
1st 1200mg/1500mg/1800mg
2nd. 800mg/1000mg/1200mg
3nd 600mg/750mg/900mg
4th 400mg/500mg/600mg

That should make me peak around week 3-4 instead of week 6-7
How would you veterans approach this?

Tankmanbob, any chance you could grace me with a graph for all of that?
Aiming for a 16 week cycle total.

 

[PapaNoel]

How would you handle AI and doses? Calculate it based on mg's and injections and taper it down as the front is tapered?
Would you use "preventive", ancillaries outside AI, say nolva to combat gyno as such high initial doses?

Anything else to consider?
Thansk bros

I mean, i've handled 700/600mg testo/masteron for months, so its not insanely much higher but better safe than sorry

 

[scorob777]

I plotted your plan, assuming 2 injections per week, enanthate 10 days half life, EQ 14.

First, this is what your levels would look like with no front load. Yellow is test, blue is masteron, red is EQ, black is total of all.

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You can see the slow ramp up. By week 6 or 7 you are mostly there, but you don't actually level out until week 11 or so.

Here is what this looks like. I assume 1st is 1st shot, not 1st week, and so on.
1st 1200mg/1500mg/1800mg
2nd. 800mg/1000mg/1200mg
3nd 600mg/750mg/900mg
4th 400mg/500mg/600mg

View attachment 567615

You can see this is way, way too much.

So, here is what it looks like if you just double up shots #1 and #2. Shot 1 400 test, 500 mast, 600 EQ.

View attachment 567616

An improvement, but probably not as quick as you were hoping for.

So here is triple first shot 600, 750, 900, and double second shot 400, 500, 600.

View attachment 567617

That last option looks like a very quick ramp up, I'm assuming this is what you are looking for.

For AI rule of thumb using 12.5 mg EOD asin or 0.25 mg EOD adex for 500 Test C, then adjusting for 400 Test E and 600 boldenone which aromatizes about 50% of test gives 17 mg EOD asin or 0.34 mg EOD adex. You would have to know by bloodwork if the base rule of thumb applies to you, or if you need more or less. Take the full dose from day 1 and you should be fine.

 

[PapaNoel]

The last option is what im looking for yes but im bit confused by what you mean.
Triple first shot? You mean first 3 injections at those mg's? I so dumb with math

 

[jp4355]

Hello.

Since my next cycle will be test e, EQ and masteron E, they're all fairly long esters.
So i was thinking of frontloading them...

But it would be a fuckton of gear in my body the same time...
I'm going for:
400mg test e
500mg masteron e
600mg EQ

So a frontload would be smt like:
1st 1200mg/1500mg/1800mg
2nd. 800mg/1000mg/1200mg
3nd 600mg/750mg/900mg
4th 400mg/500mg/600mg

That should make me peak around week 3-4 instead of week 6-7
How would you veterans approach this?

Tankmanbob, any chance you could grace me with a graph for all of that?
Aiming for a 16 week cycle total.

Your Frontload is more than is Necessary.
It should look like this.

Example: ~ 400 Mg of Test E ~ 200 Mg every 3.5 Days.

Frontload would be.
Day 1 ~ 800 Mg.
Day 2 ~ 400 Mg.
Day 3 ~ Nothing
Day 4 ~ 200 Mg
Then 200 Mg every 3.5 Days.......................................................... JP
P.S.
AI should be run from Day 1 at an Increased Dose.
Then you can Taper it back in 2 or 3 Weeks.
Just keep a Journal of any and all Side Effects, so you can adjust on the Fly.

DON'T WAIT FOR SIDES TO GET BAD ~ BE PROACTIVE !

 

[scorob777]

Let's say you are doing two shots per week. Shot #1 Tuesday evening triple your normal dosage. Shot #2 Saturday morning double your normal dosage. Shot #3 onward regular dose.

Doing that will get you graph #4 above.

 

[PapaNoel]

Let's say you are doing two shots per week. Shot #1 Tuesday evening triple your normal dosage. Shot #2 Saturday morning double your normal dosage. Shot #3 onward regular dose.
Doing that will get you graph #4 above.

Cool thanks.
So basically the overkill was the 3rd shot in my first post?

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

WHen does this cycle tipoff? Getting blood works before?

 

[Mad- scientist]

I think front loading is a bad idea it can make any negative side effect way worse.

 

[PapaNoel]

I think front loading is a bad idea it can make any negative side effect way worse.

There's no reward without risk, no gain without pain...
Excuses aside, i'm aware and its a gamble i probably shouldnt do but i'm willing to do.
Plus i've done masteron several times, only new compound is EQ and sides arent that horrible from what I can gather, maybe some anxiety the first week?

 

[PapaNoel]

WHen does this cycle tipoff? Getting blood works before?

2-4 months, depends a bit on life stuff.