Fun with First Time Injections

[Ice-9]

Fun with First Time Injections: Experiences of Newbie

Guys, I'm a newbie, but I've been lurking around several boards for months. I just started some Stan QV 50 through a 25G-1" pin eod, and so far, I've bled a lot on both attempts. My first was in the glute, and I developed soreness and a knot on the second day and a bruise on the third day as the knot seems to be going away. My second was today in the delt, and I bled for 60 sec or so even with pressure applied through a swab. I aspirated on the glute shot, but forgot to on the delt. My questions are:

1. How do you spot infection early on?
2. What are the consequences of shooting into a vein? Just lost product or something worse?
3. What can prevent bruising? I really don't need tell-tale spots.

Thanks, guys. Anything you can offer would really help set me at ease.

 

[JohnnyB]

Welcome to S'ology

1) If you have a lump that is warm to the touch you could have an infection

2) I wouldn't recomend it but it won't be lost, but the active life will be shortened

3) Not much I still get them from time to time

JohnnyB

 

[GymLift]

A bruise after the glute injection, huh? Glutes are usually good, although you should really be using 1.5" pin for 'em. Did you inject inthe the upper and outside quadrant of the glute?

 

[steel59]

just relax... take your time injectiing... I am thinking maybe you are pushing the oil into too quick.... perhaps moving the needle around. You will develop better injecting techniques as you go along....

When I first started I would shoot my quads as often as I could.... With quad shot's you can use both hands and also you can see exactly what you are doing... I found it easy to get adjusted this way.

 

[Ice-9]

Thanks a lot for the great responses. The lump doesn't seem to be hot, but the coloration is just odd. Four hours later, my delt site is incredibly sore. I've thought about starting a thread chronicling my first experience. Is that a good idea or are there a lot of those? I couldn't find them, but that doesn't mean they're not there. For what it's worth to other newbies, it was really intimidating to be sitting in my bathroom at 5:45 am alone, trying to perform a medical procedure I've never been trained to do.

 

[GymLift]

If you want, mark where you do your injections and take a picture. A picture is worth a thousand words they say.

 

[Ice-9]

If you want, mark where you do your injections and take a picture. A picture is worth a thousand words they say.

If I can get my roommate's camera, I'll probably post one.

I'll go ahead and continue reporting my experience. Seven hours from injection, my delt is now so sore that it almost limits my range of motion. Normal?

 

[big-tymer]

If I can get my roommate's camera, I'll probably post one.

I'll go ahead and continue reporting my experience. Seven hours from injection, my delt is now so sore that it almost limits my range of motion. Normal?

normal for a couple days until you learn where to and where not to, and get more experience with injection..

 

[Ice-9]

normal for a couple days until you learn where to and where not to, and get more experience with injection..

Yeah, I'm wonderin' if I went a little to low down on the delt.

I know I've I already said it, but I'll say it again: I really appreciate the feedback. The only guy I know that does this stuff here doesn't seem to want to spend much time helping me learn the ropes. It's really frustrating, but you guys are helping me feel a little more confident.

Addition: I noticed that the delt that I injected into is swollen.

 

[GymLift]

You aren't stupid, but there ARE a lot of stupid guys around that do their injections without hardly any research whatsoever, and everyone seems to live. I wish the search function wasn't broken. There is something I want to you read, posted by a guy without a clue. I guess it'll have to wait.

Keep up updated. I like the vastus lateralis (thighs) because I have so much control, although with all honestly I got a hard lump last time even though I did the injection by the book. Part of the game, I guess.

 

[Tonytrauma]

Hey Ice-9,I havent been doing this for that long either and I feel ya on that delt.Ive only shot the glutes but Ive found that If I really pay attention to do everything(ie injecting and withdrawing the needle) at the exact same angle I pushed the pin in with really helps minimize the bruising and bleeding.

 

[Ice-9]

I'll continue using this thread as a journal and a way to ask questions indirectly. Other young bucks can identify with it, and the pros can laugh at my newbie ass.

mranak, those hard lumps are getting old. Two injections, two painful lumps. The one in my delt is really painful. I feel really frustrated right now because the guy that got me this, a very experienced guy, told me I should see almost instant results, and I'm not. I just had my worst chest workout in as long as I can remember. I saw better instantaneous results last summer with M1T. If I could see some results, it would make it a little easier to use that pin. Morale is a little low, and this stuff seems to have robbed me of my appetite. I have trouble finishing a bowl of oatmeal.

 

[GymLift]

To be honest, I don't even know your stats and, depending on your size, I might even recommend against a cycle for you.

Those lumps are hard, huh? I got my first hard lump this past Friday and I've been injecting since November of last year (I'm on hormone replacement therapy). Don't do the delts anymore. Do you live in a state where you can buy syringes without a prescription? If so, then you might want to pick up a 1.5" 25G syringe if you want to try the glutes again. Otherwise, you have the thighs, although I do feel that the thigh injections over at spotinjections.com are too far to the outside of the thigh.

My best advice is good luck.

 

[bigtattoo]

Dude,being new to the game as you said I would keep the shots in the glutes and like mranak said go with the 1.5".As you gain more experience you can move on to other spots.

 

[Ice-9]

I like the 1.5" pin suggestion, and the glute didn't hurt half as bad as the delt. Much appreciated.

I'm taking advil to relieve the pain in my delt. Whew. What a relief. It doesn't look that bad, looks like I have a massive left delt. Kinda makes me laugh. Anyway, I was pretty pissed last night. I couldn't get to sleep. I was thinking about just quitting the Winstrol (winny), but this morning, I pushed through that haze and saw some good gains in my triceps strength. I think I might add some calories to my diet for a little bit.

Stats
Age: 25
Ht: 5'11"
Wt: 220 lbs.
BF%: ~14%

I'm going to get a pic up, but to give you some indication as to my development, I'll say that people who don't really know anything ask me if I'm a bodybuilder. I'm not lean, especially right now, but my girlfriend swears to me that I have body dismorphia because I can't help but think I'm small and need to get bigger while she swears I'm huge. I do need to lose some fat; that's for certain, and this is a cutting cycle. Here's the plan my friend hooked me up with. Suggestions are welcomed.

Days 1-33 (~weeks 1-5): 50 mg Winstrol (winny) eod
Days 34-40 (~week 6): 50 mg Winstrol (winny) eod, 25 mg Anavar
Days 41-73 (~weeks 7-11): 25 mg Anavar

I'm not sure about the dosing on that last leg. I might adjust it once I get there. I've also got some clen, and I've got to decide if I want to take it somewhere in the middle or right after the cycle. I'm going to try it sometime, and see just how strong it is. I'll probably cycle it and an ECA stack on and off.

 

[GymLift]

Glad you aren't a 150 lbs guy doing gear.

Honestly, you would have been better with a long ester testosterone. Save the Winstrol (winny) for down the road when you get your bf% lower (if that is what you want to do).

Winny. Hrm. Can't you just drink that instead of injecting?

 

[big-tymer]

Winny. Hrm. Can't you just drink that instead of injecting?

Drinking is for pussys.


Bro sounds like your making a decient attempt at running gear, your posts seem quite genuine so props for that, Keep your shots in your Quads, and GLutes, If you have big calfs try those as well. or triceps too, I'm not a fan of delt shots, some people are and have good luck with them, I always feel my delts are never big enough.. You may be going too low into the delt, You want to be up pretty high on the delt. you've got more muscle development there. what size pin were you using? I'm not sure if you mentioned above.

Anyways your onto a good start bro, After awhile it will be a piece of cake, I like ice cream cake best, remember that

 

[GymLift]

A lot of big guys say "just drink it" when it comes to Winstrol (winny) but I have no experience, so.... <shrug>

Don't inject into the calves. It works for some people, but others scream in pain. It doesn't sounds like the best idea at this time, anyway. Stick to glutes or thighs or drink it.

 

[Ice-9]

I'm using 25G-1". I ordered 23G-1.5", but they got it wrong. Oh well. I am trying to make these posts genuine. If somebody else comes along, they can see exactly what I was thinking. Right now, I'm thinking I might have to drink this next dose because I can't handle another lump right now for a couple of reasons. That means, some people think I'm a pussy. Oh well. Nothing against 'em. We all do what we gotta do.

A friend of mine that is a EMT sent me this:

Luckily, I don't think this will kill you. Phew! It is extremely difficult to get a septic infection from an injection in this country. Needles used to give infections are kept in sterile packages before they are used. The same thing goes for the vaccination/medication given. The only thing that isn't sterile is you. This is why they usually use an alchohol swab or iodine to wipe your arm down. Plus, you're a young guy. Sepsis usually attacks people who have a compromised immune system (elderly, post surgery, etc).

The swelling, pain and bruising is normal. The lump can usually be taken care of by massaging the area. It may cause a burning sensation, but it is just because the medication is spreading. The soreness and bruising will eventually go away.

Sepsis can have a lot of symptoms, but the biggest by far would be a fever, altered mental status and irregular heartrate.

Some of this is old news. Some of it may not be.

I've decided I'm going to add some calories and carbs to my diet, so I can see some gains and use those gains for motivation. You know it pumps you up when you see all that weight moving around.

I'm experiencing pain down my arm, and I think it's because of the swelling in my delt. I take advil, and the pain in the delt and down the arm goes away.

Can you go to far into the delt, too deep? Just wondering.

 

[Ice-9]

I probably won't be able to update over the weekend, but the delt is still completely swollen, painful, mildly discolored and warm to the touch, but the warmth could very easily be from the swelling, so I'm not freakin out yet. I've got my eye on it, and I'm massaging it any chance I get.