Genetic Freak? & Questions.

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Curious_Dan

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Hi all,

I'll try to make this post short as I've got an insane amount of questions & I've read a lot of the stickies in each board. I'm 27 - 5'11 - 102KG - Not sure of my BMI or BF%??

I've just started my first Dbol cycle 20mg ED, I know it's oral only, but it's hard to get a hold of these products, I want to try to obtain some Test-E, but the whole needle/aspirate thing puts me off a little. I don't know why but I know I'll have to give it a go to see it's results.

I'm not going to lie but I've had a small case of gyno for a long time, without ever taking juice. I think when I was on Prednisone at a young age it developed, the weird thing is on Dbol it looks & feels as it's reduced which is really strange? Does Dbol replace your normal testosterone with synthetic testosterone? Hence the reason you need to have PCT to balance the hormones out?

Couple of Pro's/Con's just in point form if anybody can comment on them It would be greatly appreciated.

Dbol/Test-E with a PCT of Nolva/Clomid &/or Aromasin would be a good proper first stack? I was going to take this Dbol only for 4 weeks on / 2-3 weeks off with no PCT (Because I don't have any!!) then try to obtain all the stuff above.

Pro

-My mood has greatly increased.
-My hormones, more so sex drive has increased, is that normal?
-Definitely noticable size gain, 4 KG in 2 weeks!
-Pumping more sets/reps every session.

Con

-A little bloated due to my excessive water intake, so thirsty all the time!
-My poo really smells now.
-No hair loss yet!
-Sometimes a little numb in some joints of a morning.
-Sleeping an extra 1 now too. Not sure if that's a bad thing? :)


That's all that I can think of now, thanks for any help in advance, much appreciated :) :)
 
In my experience dbol reduces testosterone production in the body hence the reason its recommended to stack with a test. To even out the body test levels. But its improtant after a cycle to use anti-estros to prevent gyno.
 
dbol surpressing your hpta natural test production , leaving you with 0 test in your body which leads to a host of new problems and sides , this is why u always use test as a base in all cycles and dont do just oral cycles . dbol wont cure gyno , its just placebo effect or your imagination , it will infact in most cases make gyno worse . and yes u would still need a proper post cycle therapy (pct) with dbol to get your natty test back to normal . basic first cycle is test e 500mg/week (250mg mon - 250mg thurs) for 12 weeks . adex from start to end at .5 every other day and post cycle therapy (pct) nolva clomid , Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is also recommended to make a much smoother recovery in post cycle therapy (pct)
 
fancyhuh101 said:
dbol surpressing your hpta natural test production , leaving you with 0 test in your body which leads to a host of new problems and sides , this is why u always use test as a base in all cycles and dont do just oral cycles . dbol wont cure gyno , its just placebo effect or your imagination , it will infact in most cases make gyno worse . and yes u would still need a proper pct with dbol to get your natty test back to normal . basic first cycle is test e 500mg/week (250mg mon - 250mg thurs) for 12 weeks . adex from start to end at .5 every other day and pct nolva clomid , Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is also recommended to make a much smoother recovery in pct
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By no meens am i condoning an oral only cycle. But to say dbol supressess 100% of your natty test is rediculous
 
dbol without tst is like trn without tst . high andros sum bad news feller ..op u should be running test e c p suspension watvr . just sum test
 
Thanks for the input people, appreciate it.

The thing is, it's hard for me to obtain some of the stuff above I was lucky to get the DBol & I think I can get Test-E soon. Can you buy some of the Clomid/Nolva from a local pharmacy or need a prescription?

Otherwise I'll have no post cycle therapy (pct) after this 4 weeks which I'm concerned of sides. Will Test powder help me restore my natural levels after this cycle?

Plus with the pinning thing I'm not so sure my woman would be supportive of this, she doesn't understand when it comes to this sort of thing.

Are you saying I should take Armidex too? I read that this treats breast cancer in women? I was thinking for the post cycle therapy (pct) just Nolva or Clomid plus my stack Dbol/Test-E. Will this be sufficient???

Also I wanted to see how I react to these drugs, hence I'm trying them one at a time.

Thanks all!
 
You NEED test
You NEED arimidex (ai)
You NEED proper post cycle therapy (pct) (nolva/clomid)

Without all 3 of these things, you will fail..
 
clman8585 said:
You NEED test
You NEED arimidex (ai)
You NEED proper post cycle therapy (pct) (nolva/clomid)

Without all 3 of these things, you will fail..
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I understand that but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has ever started on an oral only cycle? I found it easier for me then to jump right into 5 different drugs, not knowing the effects of each.

Also how do you guys go about BW? Do you just walk in and say i need it done because? I want to get some BW done to see if any of levels are out of whack.

Thanks!
 
Curious_Dan said:
I understand that but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has ever started on an oral only cycle?

Thanks!
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yes and just as dumb they all fucked themselves up and/or lost their gains.. yes you're not the only one.. unfortunately happens all the time. people don't want to spend time doing the proper research, i guess it's too much work to actually educate themselves, it's easier to just order it and start taking it... oh well..
 
You're a mad man try reading mate and you can get anything you need you just have to look in the right places.
 
3ct said:
yes and just as dumb they all fucked themselves up and/or lost their gains.. yes you're not the only one.. unfortunately happens all the time. people don't want to spend time doing the proper research, i guess it's too much work to actually educate themselves, it's easier to just order it and start taking it... oh well..
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Well I can't order them online obviously it's through people of people, and it's hard to obtain.

You don't have to discourage me from trying this, I just think why should I start a compound of drugs when I don't know their effects? It's like grabbing Rum/Vodka/Bourbon and taking them all at once without prior knowing what the hell the effects are.

I know some of you guys have been on stacks/cycles for a long time but there's always someone knew to this.

Is there stickies about BW? I shall check & if this AAS works out ok, I'll try to get my hands on test.

But seriously though will Test-Powder help between On/Off cycles?

Just remember Einstein came up with ideas formulated from other theories, yes you can educate yourself but known experience goes a long way.
 
alinshoprep said:
A lot of people do tren without test.
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Just curious when you guys started pinning, did any of your mates pin for you in the glute/quad/delt??

Or you do it by yourself?

Also if you aspirate and get blood in it do you just pull out pin again with blood/gear?
 
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