Genuine info needed "without being patronising "

ManchesterMc

ManchesterMc

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Hi as you may be aware I am new to this site but not new to the gym.I have been to the gym for many years now and I have dabbled in and out of mild dosages of steroids IE Nat 50s whinstrol anavar test300 and Dbol. Now I am looking to go more intense into the steroid and cleaner way as you can see mostly tablets, I have no problem injecting done it before read properly how to do it many times but I want to now do a hard full cycle . I'm in two minds undecided between Decca and test, or tri tren and test .iv read up about tren ethanate as being the new improved formula but can have some severe side effects(limp dick) my worst fear ! But the thing I don't want from Decca is the water intention and fatty gains any serious recommendation for muscle gain without turning you into a potato head ie maintain definition with size is this impossible to achieve at the same time cheers .
 
Age 29 height 5'8 and weight 11stone ,I know the aspects of dieting done it excessive due to my years in boxing healthy foods etc and know its a massive part of training,I love exercise so it's not just a trend I'm jumping into I just feel iv reached my maximum natural potential at the moment and want to exceed myself . I'm not looking to become the next Arnold nor am I wanting to look like these weekend guys with xs small tshirt a on in town looking like they have rolls of carpets under their arms. I'm looking for reasonable size gains but still want definition cheers.
 
Iv done few cycles of Nat 50s two cycles of test 300 6weeks each and recently finished a cycle of whinstrol and anavar bout two months ago which I did two consecutive sessions of strait
 
All deppend of your goal my brother. WhT your goal??? Cause tren can give you less side with definition but remember your diet is the key of your success
 
Lol Joe Donnelly (joke) I'm looking for decent size but still maintain definition I'm not wanting to become the hulk(although that would be awesome ) but I am looking for a good physique and gains.
 
Manchester, run yourself some test and load up on equipoise and I think you will get what you want, and keep a good part of it. eq is recommended at 16 weeks though, sometimes more. good news is that it comes in higher dosages than back in the 50mg days. my 2cnts.
 
Which test you recommend ?iv used 300 but been told400is very thick and oily and a bugger to inject and how many ml of test a week ? Cheers
 
You need alot of research. There are too many questions to go over with you. Go read the stickies and get the basics down first. People are going to ignore your thread if you act like a child
 
test-e 600mgs a week eq at 800mgs a week. as for t300 or 400 its up to u.. test is test
run the test for 20 weeks and the eq fo 18, some may say longer, just my opinion
also ull want an ai like aromasin. I run it at 25mg every day and hcg ran at 500iu a week until the day before pct
pct starts 2.5weeks after last pin of test use a nolva clomid cmbo at 100/50/50/50 for clomid and 40/40/20/20 for nolva

as for tri tren its jus a blend of 3 different esters, but still tren.. most likely a mix of acetate which needs to be pinned ed or eod due to it being fast acting, enanthate which needs to be pined roughly twice a week or e3d and is slower acting, and the third from what ive had xperience with is Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (parabolan) which is usually the same as enanthate .. as for avoiding it the only reason I can see is because of the acetate and needing to be pinned so often to keep stable blood levels.

also ur first run with trenis recommend to be acetate s you can control sides.. personally I didn't do this I just ran enanthate and went as high as 750 a week. I was always sweaty and had a scattered nose bleed but no big deal

so if u want to run tren id recommend tren ace at 50mg ed or 100 eod and test at 400-600 a week. I hve no experience running tren higher than test so I cant chime in on that

if u are going to run tren ull need a prolactin inhibitor. I like prami at 25mcg ed

best of luck
 
Ah thanks like you hear and see most people doing they just hear the best craze going on and start injecting without any research or advice ie that's why I'm on here it's a lot of thorough information so firstly thanks for taking the time to educate me more . This is why I am here to seek advice from the experienced I feel that is the best advice ,I'm not tackling this like a child or stupidly I want to be careful and get best results I am just new to the forum and dint know the un written rules etc so forgive my amateur ness on here.
 
Ok iv been reading and about PCT seems the nolvadex keeps cummin out ontop but few queries of when to take it some are saying towards the end of cycle because it reduces gains and others are saying to take it throughout cycle? Any clarification please cheers
 
Ok iv been reading and about PCT seems the nolvadex keeps cummin out ontop but few queries of when to take it some are saying towards the end of cycle because it reduces gains and others are saying to take it throughout
 
Is EQ back in style. Cool. 800 mg of EQ is too much. He's 154 pounds. First off The most important thing is his diet. At 154 he isn't getting enough protein. I'd say that the first place to start. I was 154 at 15 years old and I was a string bean.

Before you recumbent a cycler with dosages enough for me at 270 pounds maybe you need to pay attention to the obvious he don't know how to eat to grow.
 
DPR knows what he is talking about guys.. its always about the diet first..

thats why i questioned his stats in the first place.. i just didn't want to come down on the guy about it so much..
 
true he is 154, but I assumed this was a desired weight from boxing, my bad. both 3j and dr are correct diet comes first. a for 800 eq being too much, this was my opinon and what works for me, I cant say what will work for others.. 800 was a good dose for me,but I was 275 at the time
 
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