Glutamine

LiQuiD_FiRe said:
You have to understand my side though. I've had several "large" guys swear by glutamine, so it only natural I become somewhat of a "believer"
now i'm not... but still :D

Just found this:

"Glutamine is the latest amino acid to generate excitement as a HGH releaser, due to the fascinating results of a 1995 study performed on volunteers ranging from 32 to 64 years of age by Thomas C. Welbourne of Louisiana State University College of Medicine. He found that Glutamine raised HGH levels more than 400%!

"

notice the ages :(

lol

Yea! It also boosts the immune system....... if you have AIDS or are a burn victim :) :D
 
How GLUTAMINE works

or colon cancer........

OK, here is HOW glutamine protects you from Muscle Atrophy, I will try to make this as simple as I can.......

To better understand me, you will need to know how and what Cortisol is. Cortisol is a "stress hormone" our bodies create. It is known to reduce protein stores in all tissues except the liver, through several mechanisms, including a reduction in the synthesis of cellular RNA, which is essential for protein synthesis. Since anabolic steroids promote muscle protein synthesis by increasing RNA, Cortisol has exactly the opposite effect.

Cortisol mobilizes amino acids from the muscle for transport to the liver, where the undergo a process called *GLUCONEOGENESIS, that results in increased glucose production. While this is vital for a rapid source of energy during severe stress, it also results in muscle breakdown. Insulin opposes Cortisol in the action, but high-stress activity promotes Cortisol domination over insulin
Cortisol appears to promote the synthesis of a protein degrading substance called "ubiquitin" that rapidly breaks down the muscle.

OK here is the point................

Cortisol also works by stimulating the EXIT of the Amino Acid Glutamine from muscle. When that occurs, rapid muscle catabolism follows. Several studies have shown taking supplemental (powder) Glutamine may block much of the catabolic effect of Cortisol in muscle.

Any Questions????? Sometimes you have to do research above and beyond, the headlines.
Glutamine is NOT a new break through supplement, its a non-essential amino acid.



:D
 
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Re: How GLUTAMINE works

NotorESdsm said:
or colon cancer........
OK here is the point................

) Glutamine may block much of the catabolic effect of Cortisol in muscle.

Any Questions????? Sometimes you have to do research above and beyond, the headlines.
Glutamine is NOT a new break through supplement, its a non-essential amino acid.



:D

key word here to me is may. it may also take money out of my pocket that is better spent elsewere. thats just me.
 
"Sometimes you have to do research above and beyond, the headlines."

i think the university of saskatoon would apply, LOL.
 
Re: How GLUTAMINE works

NotorESdsm said:
or colon cancer........


Not sure how colon cancer and bodybuilding are comparable.


To better understand me, you will need to know how and what Cortisol is. Cortisol is a "stress hormone" our bodies create. It is known to reduce protein stores in all tissues except the liver, through several mechanisms, including a reduction in the synthesis of cellular RNA, which is essential for protein synthesis. Since anabolic steroids promote muscle protein synthesis by increasing RNA, Cortisol has exactly the opposite effect.

I appreciate the high school nutrition review.... but its irrelvant.

Insulin opposes Cortisol in the action, but high-stress activity promotes Cortisol domination over insulin

Will need some references cited for this one...



Cortisol also works by stimulating the EXIT of the Amino Acid Glutamine from muscle.

But at what rate? and at what rate is it being produced and replaced? ahhh. Glutamine is overly abundant, if you think 1 intense workout is going to deplete stores, bad news for ya.

Several studies have shown taking supplemental (powder) Glutamine may block much of the catabolic effect of Cortisol in muscle.


Let's see'em.


Glutamine is NOT a new break through supplement, its a non-essential amino acid.

Then you know that non-essential amino acids are fairly worthless by themselves unless you're in a hypocaloric state. Oral administration of non essential amino acids are merely stripped down and used for the synthesis of any other amino acid that is needed.

Speaking of gluconeogensis, you must have forgotten that this is the same process that will convert glutamine to glucose (eventually), so you can spend your $40 on some glucose if you wish.


Plenty of rest and protein is more than enough to prevent catabolism and atrophy
 
NotorESdsm said:
You know what they say about "opinions"?! Chill YJ upset I don't share your opinion?, oh god of supplements?

Aye? Im as chill as they come, please dont mistake my 'tone' for being upset or arrogant......


ps. you shared opinions, I shared facts.
 
NotorESdsm said:
You know what they say about "opinions"?! Chill YJ upset I don't share your opinion?, oh god of supplements?

dude let it go! he is right on this one. glutamine is a waste.
 
Look I'm gonna say this, Every "body" is different, IT WORKS for me, so please don't insult my intellegence.
That's it, plain and simple, what may work for you, may not work for someone else. And it does work for a lot of people, too.
So that's it, OK I'm fine, nothing is taken personal "dude", it's a public forum.
And just for the record...I'm not a "dude", dude.

It's all good...good debate
 
NotorESdsm said:
Look I'm gonna say this, Every "body" is different, IT WORKS for me, so please don't insult my intellegence.

'Intelligence' :)


Everybody is different, but to what extent? Essentially everyone's biochemistry is the same. Im not buying the 'it works for some' argument.
 
NotorESdsm said:
Look I'm gonna say this, Every "body" is different, IT WORKS for me, so please don't insult my intellegence.
That's it, plain and simple, what may work for you, may not work for someone else. And it does work for a lot of people, too.
So that's it, OK I'm fine, nothing is taken personal "dude", it's a public forum.
And just for the record...I'm not a "dude", dude.

It's all good...good debate

dude sorry dude. its just that dude i disagree with you dude. i mean dude its ur money dude! do what you want dude.

im out dude'
 
Hey, u all know that amino acids are important, so why tro not to speak out? Glutamine is good, you wont get ill as easy and every good thing about amino acids i aint gonna take up.

if i where u i would take 5grams/morning 10grams/pre workout 10grams/post workout

And to u other guys, u can get BIG without AAS!!!!!!!
 
Bast said:
Hey, u all know that amino acids are important, so why tro not to speak out? Glutamine is good, you wont get ill as easy and every good thing about amino acids i aint gonna take up.

if i where u i would take 5grams/morning 10grams/pre workout 10grams/post workout

And to u other guys, u can get BIG without AAS!!!!!!!

You should read the thread before making comments...
Glutamine is useless...
 
hhajdo said:
You should read the thread before making comments...
Glutamine is useless...

So being that it is the most abundant amino acid present in the body, somehow I can't believe it to be "useless."
 
damngenetics said:
So being that it is the most abundant amino acid present in the body, somehow I can't believe it to be "useless."


Thats a bit of a self contradiction. Because it is the most abundant amino acid in the body, why would you supplement with it? Your body isnt going to use exogenous glutamine while its still packed with stores of its own, like all humans have, no reason to go out and spend money on it, its expensive glucose.
 
damngenetics said:
So being that it is the most abundant amino acid present in the body, somehow I can't believe it to be "useless."

thanks for proving my point. i couldent have said it better myself.
 
Maybe somethings we can use more of, like creatine and testosterone, and something we can only use so much >????
 
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