Guys who used low dosage first cycles ONLY

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hckyplyr

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Hey guys,
After reading all these accutane threads, I think I figured it out. I've been on 40mg ED of Accutane for 2 months. By the time acne comes around (in 10 weeks time post cycle) I'll be more than 4 months into my accutane treatment. HOWEVER, I was thinking of doing a cycle like this for my first:
Week 1-10 500mg Test eth
Week 1-9 400mg Deca

NOT ANYMORE....I was trying to find a steroid that wouldn't affect acne so much, but maybe its the dosage I should be looking at. Maybe I should just do a cycle of Test eth 250mg. a week....Many people have had tremendous gains for their first cycles on this. SO....Those of you that have ran low dosage first cycles, please give me some input and your results. Thanks a ton guys, hopefully this works out.
 
my first cycle was 500mg of test and 400mgs of deca with some dbol thrown randomly in. i gained 25 lbs and kept 20. but i think i could have done that on the test alone. i would recomend running just the test. s ave the deca for later.
 
hckyplyr said:
Hey guys,
After reading all these accutane threads, I think I figured it out. I've been on 40mg ED of Accutane for 2 months. By the time acne comes around (in 10 weeks time post cycle) I'll be more than 4 months into my accutane treatment. HOWEVER, I was thinking of doing a cycle like this for my first:
Week 1-10 500mg Test eth
Week 1-9 400mg Deca

NOT ANYMORE....I was trying to find a steroid that wouldn't affect acne so much, but maybe its the dosage I should be looking at. Maybe I should just do a cycle of Test eth 250mg. a week....Many people have had tremendous gains for their first cycles on this. SO....Those of you that have ran low dosage first cycles, please give me some input and your results. Thanks a ton guys, hopefully this works out.
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500mg test plus 400mg deca per week is way too much for a first timer, expecially if worried about acne and other sides.
The 500mg test should be ok (by the way, I think that for a first time even the 250mg option is even better: many guys have tremendous gains on low dosages when they start gearing).
Remember pct.
 
Don't take this as a flame bro, BUT............

In MY opinion the use of steroids is one that has 2 sides, yes there is a benefit in gained muscle mass, however like everything else in life nothing is free. To me it is a bit of a trade off and a bit of acne or a receeding hairline is a price I am willing to pay. To attempt to make the gains without sacrificing anything is not really fair. it's the whole "Have your cake and eat it too" thing.

Now that I am off of my soapbox, My first cycle was 2 amps of STEN a week, I think the total mgs of that was around 200mgs a week and I grew like a freakin weed on it, of course I was too young and should have waited, so who knows how much of that growth was attributable to natural test production.

I am a FIRM believer that first cycle doses in guys younger than 25 can be very good in the ranges of 250-500mg per week of Test ONLY.
I would NOT add in the Deca until you have a few cycles under your belt and you actually know how YOUR body responds to the Test.
 
Thanks for the help guys. I will definately go with only test only now, I just have to decide whether to go with 250mg or 500mg/week. I'm thinking 500mg. and see what happens, any more suggestions?
 
500 test is not a "low dose" first cycle IMO, 400-500 is perfect unless you are already quite heavy.

If you aren't running orals in the cycle the accutane wont be a problem IMO, your doc did check your liver before starting you on this right? No drinking?

Sounds fine to me.

If the test increases your acne (probably will maybe half way through or so) then can you use 60 or 80mg? Or will he/she not prescribe that, that you know of or?
 
Mudge...I'm not running any orals, I'll probably just use 400-500mg of Test Eth. As far as Accutane, for my second month, The doc just kept me on 40mg. I'm pretty light (160lbs) so I think thats proportionate for my body weight. Also, I'm planning on using Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) because it won't promote as much acne as clomid, and I'm assuming it works just as well as clomid??????
 
If you are only 160 Bro, I would def only start off with 250mg's of Test.

I am positive you will see results from taht.
 
Yes, nolva is great, I am one of the clomid haters.

If your test is 250mg/ml and you are not afraid of frequent injections, you could go every 5th day or something.

7/4 = 438mg
7/5 = 350mg
7/6 = 292mg
 
I hate Clomid as well........I use Nolvadex pct........This is not a flame but why go 250 mg. of Test which is soooooo small instead of 500 mg......If i am going to use AAS's then Goddamit i am going to get something out of it......I wasted a lot of time money and training on cycles for a piss ant trying to be conservative.........

You are in or out and one other thing the 400 mg. of Deca is not a bad idea either but in my experience it worsens acne more than Test.....

Don't listen to every Joe Schmoe and make your own choice but if you chemically enhance your body then get somehting out of it.........

I never follow a set cycle unless it works if 750 mg. is not working then i go to 1000 mg. and etc..........
 
if your on accutane, then by the time you would be getting acne from the test, you will be 3 or 4 months in and the accutane would have already almost finished its course, so you should be ok... i have acne naturally and so far, Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) don't make it worse at all... if anything it goes down a bit... ive also heard that from a few other bros with acne not from AAS, but from natural reasons... anyway, only way to find out is give it a shot... try out 400mg a week, you should probly be fine... Post cycle is where the acne came for me, but you will be finishing up accutane so that should cancel it out i would think...
also check your PM's...
 
Thanks guys, you've helped out a great deal. I do expect gains at 250mg/week, BUT, just to make sure I'm not wasting a cycle, I'm going to bump to 400mg or 500mg/week. ONE more question and I'll be on my way, I have access to numbers of tests, which would you guys go with????? I can get sus, upjohn cyp, stanabolic eth, proline, etc. etc. ....Once I get started I'll post progess in another forum if anyone wants. Take care guys
 
This is not a flame but why go 250 mg. of Test which is soooooo small instead of 500 mg......If i am going to use AAS's then Goddamit i am going to get something out of it......I wasted a lot of time money and training on cycles for a piss ant trying to be conservative.........
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I sort of agree, as I adjust doses all throughout also, but for a beginner I think a structured plan of action is better .

We know what different compunds and different doses of those compunds do to us as we have had the luxury of 10+ years of expirimentation(sp??)

Plus the guy only weighs 160, I know I grew on +/- 250 a week at 160, (good Lord, that was a while ago!!) but everyone is different.

400 is PROBABLY better and if he can get 200 mg Cyp (in answer to your above question hckyplyr) then 400 is the way to go.
 
I started out this cycle with 500mg Test E and 400mg Deca ew , But I upped the Test E to 750mg ew. I'm liking it very much , I think it's a good winter stack for me and this is my 4th cycle. I never had acne that bad and some of the shower Gels work well for me against acne. So I have "0" knowledge of accutane.
Good Luck Bro
 
djs said:
I sort of agree, as I adjust doses all throughout also, but for a beginner I think a structured plan of action is better .

We know what different compunds and different doses of those compunds do to us as we have had the luxury of 10+ years of expirimentation(sp??)

Plus the guy only weighs 160, I know I grew on +/- 250 a week at 160, (good Lord, that was a while ago!!) but everyone is different.

400 is PROBABLY better and if he can get 200 mg Cyp (in answer to your above question hckyplyr) then 400 is the way to go.
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You are right......I just throw it in because i wasted tme mself trying to be conservative but wanted to put an inch on my arms with 200mg. Deca and 250mg. Test and 10 milligrams per day of Winny......

It just does not work that way,,,,,,,but that was ten years ago.....
 
everyone here has good cycle advice, but coming from someone who had pretty bad acne as a kid, the only drug that really bothers me is dbol, i have some pretty bad scarring on my shoulders from a cycle i did last winter.
 
I used two three month rounds of accutane before ever using gear when i was a teenager,,,,,,,,,

This is what i use now and it gets rid of blemishes and such by turning the skin over:

Tetracycline 500 mg. twice per day
Retin-A Microgel or
Differin......

Your regular doc will give it to you......
 
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