Gyno Battle on Cycle. Not winning.

[hiram1st]

Had the exact same issue on my blast I'm coming off of

Test e 250mg e 3.5d
Tren a 100mg ed
adex .25 eod
prami .25 ed
ralox 30mg ed from start of blast


Prolactin was good and e2 was 43 on non sensitive essay at mid blood work and had major flare up painful quarter size lumps under nipples. Started tomax 30mg ed. Now 4 weeks after returning to trt dose .35mg test e e3.5d and tren a to 100mg eod lumps almost completely gone. Getting bloodwork next week.

Will definitely keep test low on next blast.

 

[bigtimechief]

So ralox didn't hold off gyno For you? Just curious as I thought that would suffice.

what was your trt dose? Sounds like our bodies, or nipples I should say, react similarly.

 

[hiram1st]

Nope didn't stop it. My trt dose is 140mg test e a week. Approx. .35mg e3.5d

 

[tbonexl]

Nope didn't stop it. My trt dose is 140mg test e a week. Approx. .35mg e3.5d

Your math is a lil off... You would be at less then 1mg of test per week. Start ralox @ 60mgs per day for 2 weeks then drop to 30mgs.

 

[hiram1st]

Your math is a lil off... You would be at less then 1mg of test per week. Start ralox @ 60mgs per day for 2 weeks then drop to 30mgs.

.5 ml would be 125mg of test from a 1ml/250mg vial Right? .35ml would be 70 mg so .35ml and .35ml would be 140mg a week right?.

Did the ralox protocol in Austinites gyno thread not saying it didn't help some but running it as a preventive measure did not stop it from starting

 

[bigtimechief]

Took first dose of Ralox 60mg. Will be dropping test to about 150mg, and continue with Tren.

 

[bigtimechief]

Blood Results back.

high e2 (just over range)
high prolactin

Still surprised Nolva didn't help with the gyno. Ralox is already starting to work.

However, liver is taking a beating from the Tren presumably. Time to come on down.
AST 110
ALT 59

 

[49ER]

Blood Results back.

high e2 (just over range)
high prolactin

Still surprised Nolva didn't help with the gyno. Ralox is already starting to work.

However, liver is taking a beating from the Tren presumably. Time to come on down.
AST 110
ALT 59

What else are you drinking pills vitamins ect....? I find it very hard to believe my liver is different than everyone elses. Are you pissing clear? Do you drink plenty of water? If something is toxic it's toxic to every human, if you and me both drink a whole bottle of Tylenol were both getting sick I'll survive and you'll die is the only difference lol j.k but you catch what I'm saying? 300 mg tren is nothing I stayed on for over a year no matter how string my liver is a whole year and I use orals. Do you take medication, supplements preworkouts????

 

[hiram1st]

Blood Results back.

high e2 (just over range)
high prolactin

Still surprised Nolva didn't help with the gyno. Ralox is already starting to work.

However, liver is taking a beating from the Tren presumably. Time to come on down.
AST 110
ALT 59

What is your water in take like? Are you using NAC for liver? Should be and at least 2g a day

And I ran prami from the beginning of tren use at .25mg ed just as a preventive for prolactin and at mid blood work I was in range at 8. Stopped 4 prami 4 weeks ago when I lowered tren dose will see where prolactin is next week when I get blood work.

For the raloxifene like I said in my earlier post thinking it helped shrink it but did not prevent it. Really noticed a reduction in size and pain of lumps after lowering test dose down to trt.

 

[Angry Johnny]

Has anyone else read that Nolva and Prami have adverse effects when used together or negate each other completely? I could swear I read that on here somewhere. And could it be possible this problem arose from the fact the OP is using long ester test with short ester Tren? I could be off base, but these were the two things that kinda stuck out to me. Heading back to my hole.

 

[bigtimechief]

I've been using Clen. Possibly the issue?

on my phone for the moment, will respond in greater detail soon.

I don't drink much, no drugs. Have been taking muscle relaxer for tendonitis, however...