Had a visit with dracula. results are in and some concerns. Help appreciated

romeo021095

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hello everyone tried to upload my results but kept getting an error message so il will lay all area of importance out. I am running my test E@500mg/wk and deca at 400 (each from different respectable labs). Im on adex 0.5eod.

Areas of concern:
WBC Count high
Platelets high
ALT high
Neutrophils high
monocytes High
BUN high
Bun/creatine high
LH Low
FSH Low
Most Important Estradiol through the roof at 74

What is most disappointing is that test levels are at 2012 ng/dl I have only ran test only cycles in the past and have gotten a higher test level that that and especially with 2 compounds I expected my levels to be higher. As I said these are 2 "reputable" labs. I wont call them out but only say that my dick still works so believe that the deca is the bunk lab. I would like to here everyones input on how I should proceed as there are areas of concern that may say that I am using possibly not sterile material. How much do you guys think I should bump adex up to? Im pretty sure its is to late to jump on another compound as this is my 6th week so any suggestions on how to proceed with a worthy cycle is appreciated. Since its seems like the test is working I will name that lab which is, Pinnacle
 
74 is not through the roof at all. 200 would be through the roof

Please post actual results. The actual numbers matter for a proper diagnosis. Otherwise a guessing game .
 
hello everyone tried to upload my results but kept getting an error message so il will lay all area of importance out. I am running my test E@500mg/wk and deca at 400 (each from different respectable labs). Im on adex 0.5eod.

Areas of concern:
WBC Count high
Platelets high
ALT high
Neutrophils high
monocytes High
BUN high
Bun/creatine high
LH Low
FSH Low
Most Important Estradiol through the roof at 74

What is most disappointing is that test levels are at 2012 ng/dl I have only ran test only cycles in the past and have gotten a higher test level that that and especially with 2 compounds I expected my levels to be higher. As I said these are 2 "reputable" labs. I wont call them out but only say that my dick still works so believe that the deca is the bunk lab. I would like to here everyones input on how I should proceed as there are areas of concern that may say that I am using possibly not sterile material. How much do you guys think I should bump adex up to? Im pretty sure its is to late to jump on another compound as this is my 6th week so any suggestions on how to proceed with a worthy cycle is appreciated. Since its seems like the test is working I will name that lab which is, Pinnacle

Your WBC/Neutrophils/Monocytes can all be triggered as a high from something as mundane as allergies or a common cold. As you didn't post actual values, it's hard to discern how elevated these items are, but I'm guessing it's a mild elevation above "normal" for these. Can these indicate something serious? Yes, if the values are high enough and you're not feeling ill or have allergies. That's one for your doctor to troubleshoot if that's the case.

Platelets being high is part of the price of admission with AAS - donate blood now. I'd imagine your hematocrit was also on the upper end (you don't want to be out of range for that one), which needs to be taken care of ASAP.

ALT means it's time to invest in a bottle of NAC or Liv.52. They're cheap and both work. This again is assuming your values aren't in the triple digits.

BUN/Creatinine is just liver/kidney function when it comes to protein. Being dehydrated can trigger this to pop high, but if it's VERY high it could mean that you are consuming too much protein and need to cut back as your body isn't processing it fully and leaving some intact in your bloodstream in the form of urea.

LH/FSH are supposed to be low when on exogenous testosterone/androgens. This is part of being shut down and will hopefully return to normal upon completion of PCT.

Estradiol of 74 isn't want I would call "through the roof", but you certainly know what to do with your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (increase it). Now to your total test levels: 2012ng/dL for 500mg/wk is certainly respectable and is easily lowered by that higher estrogen as that estradiol was once testosterone that your aromatase enzyme gobbled up and changed into a different hormone. Also, deca does NOT increase test levels, so I wouldn't go calling something bunk just yet. :)

My .02c :)
 
74 is not through the roof at all. 200 would be through the roof

Please post actual results. The actual numbers matter for a proper diagnosis. Otherwise a guessing game .

Ya know, I was going to suggest that too but was half way through and decided to just finish. Off to see a movie, but I'm sure there'll be some pretty numbers in there when I get back. ;)
 
Your WBC/Neutrophils/Monocytes can all be triggered as a high from something as mundane as allergies or a common cold. As you didn't post actual values, it's hard to discern how elevated these items are, but I'm guessing it's a mild elevation above "normal" for these. Can these indicate something serious? Yes, if the values are high enough and you're not feeling ill or have allergies. That's one for your doctor to troubleshoot if that's the case.

Platelets being high is part of the price of admission with AAS - donate blood now. I'd imagine your hematocrit was also on the upper end (you don't want to be out of range for that one), which needs to be taken care of ASAP.

ALT means it's time to invest in a bottle of NAC or Liv.52. They're cheap and both work. This again is assuming your values aren't in the triple digits.

BUN/Creatinine is just liver/kidney function when it comes to protein. Being dehydrated can trigger this to pop high, but if it's VERY high it could mean that you are consuming too much protein and need to cut back as your body isn't processing it fully and leaving some intact in your bloodstream in the form of urea.

LH/FSH are supposed to be low when on exogenous testosterone/androgens. This is part of being shut down and will hopefully return to normal upon completion of PCT.

Estradiol of 74 isn't want I would call "through the roof", but you certainly know what to do with your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (increase it). Now to your total test levels: 2012ng/dL for 500mg/wk is certainly respectable and is easily lowered by that higher estrogen as that estradiol was once testosterone that your aromatase enzyme gobbled up and changed into a different hormone. Also, deca does NOT increase test levels, so I wouldn't go calling something bunk just yet. :)

My .02c :)

I'd rep this response if I could brother but you're on spread again.
 
would you guys say his test results would indicate that one of the products are under dosed or fake??

They're not fake if he's getting 2012 ng/dL, that's supraphysiological levels. Deca also won't raise serum test levels so it would only be regarding the testosterone but its possible the test is underdosed depending on how far into his cycle he is.
 
this is the end of my 6th week. will try to repost all results when I get home tonight. My baseline prior to cycle was low 400 ng/dl
 
am I the only idiot that has trouble uploading shit here. After second look at my blood work all the elevated CBC results are not very high just a couple of units above normal. Hematocrit is sitting in the high normal range.
 
i was taking 0.5 of adex eod. so is upping it to 0.7 sound like a plan

Oh wow, you were already at .5mg EOD. Yeah, I'd bump it up to .7mg and see how you feel. I always notice ankle swelling first if that pesky E2 climbs and my knees ache like a sum'bitch if I go too low. Granted, I always get a blood test if I'm not sure - but those are symptoms I've kind of learned to look for.
 
Your WBC/Neutrophils/Monocytes can all be triggered as a high from something as mundane as allergies or a common cold. As you didn't post actual values, it's hard to discern how elevated these items are, but I'm guessing it's a mild elevation above "normal" for these. Can these indicate something serious? Yes, if the values are high enough and you're not feeling ill or have allergies. That's one for your doctor to troubleshoot if that's the case.

Platelets being high is part of the price of admission with AAS - donate blood now. I'd imagine your hematocrit was also on the upper end (you don't want to be out of range for that one), which needs to be taken care of ASAP.

ALT means it's time to invest in a bottle of NAC or Liv.52. They're cheap and both work. This again is assuming your values aren't in the triple digits.

BUN/Creatinine is just liver/kidney function when it comes to protein. Being dehydrated can trigger this to pop high, but if it's VERY high it could mean that you are consuming too much protein and need to cut back as your body isn't processing it fully and leaving some intact in your bloodstream in the form of urea.

LH/FSH are supposed to be low when on exogenous testosterone/androgens. This is part of being shut down and will hopefully return to normal upon completion of PCT.

Estradiol of 74 isn't want I would call "through the roof", but you certainly know what to do with your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (increase it). Now to your total test levels: 2012ng/dL for 500mg/wk is certainly respectable and is easily lowered by that higher estrogen as that estradiol was once testosterone that your aromatase enzyme gobbled up and changed into a different hormone. Also, deca does NOT increase test levels, so I wouldn't go calling something bunk just yet. :)

My .02c :)

Outstanding.
 
thanx gentlemen for all your replies. going to bump my adex up. Don't think I look bloated or experiencing other sides related to the high estro but blood tests don't really lie.
 
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