Alright Bro. I guess you missed MY POINT, and that is that you're trolling around this forum giving bad advice with absolutely no experience to back it up! On one thread you're asking for advice on a FIRST cycle, then hoping onto another a giving advice. Really? You're talking about your main staple?...you've never even used clomid, because you've never cycled AAS's or PH's, so what the hell are you talking about? My suggestion young buck is 1: Go learn 2: Go do 3: Give advice based on experience...in that order. Hope I didn't mince words this time.