have no natural test

["Lil boy"]

just got my blood work back from the dr's. my test levels are just below 200. the normal levels are between 250-850. going to have to see a endocrinologist.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

How long you been off? Did you know your test levels before AAS?

 

["Lil boy"]

How long you been off? Did you know your test levels before AAS?

no i don't know what they were previous to aas. but i have been off for the better part of 3 months now.

 

[GymLift]

Sounds like your physician ran a total testosterone test, which (1) is a bad indicator of your effective testosterone levels and (2) is often inaccurate, anyway. It isn't uncommon for the lab to run two total testosterone tests on the same blood and come back with very different numbers.

All of that said, your testosterone is probably a bit low. The endocrinologist isn't likely to be much help, as endos usually haven't a clue about modern testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and for some reason, endos typically aren't willing to update their protocols.

Personally, I think you should give recovery more time. A low dose of a SERM might be in order (Nolva or Clomid). But the next course of action depends mostly on how you feel. For example, depression, low libido, erection issues, etc.

But don't use the SERM now if you going to go forward and see the endo as it will likely boost your testosterone, making it more difficult for the endo to diagnose and treat you.

 

["Lil boy"]

when i went to the dr's i told them what you had told me,,, i wanted lh and fsh levels checked. i have the fax in front of me and alls it states is: testosterone serum/198/Low (ng/dl) .... i have no idea what this all means other than i don't have enough test in me.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

True did you ask for free test to be checked, do you have that number as well?

 

["Lil boy"]

i asked for lh and fsh. but i'm not sure what they took. should i call and ask?

 

[bbuck]

For what it is worth I read a study a couple months back that dealt with Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) users. And on the average it took just over 6 months for there levels to return to normal. I know that is not what you want to hear but.......

 

[GymLift]

i asked for lh and fsh. but i'm not sure what they took. should i call and ask?

You could, but it sounds like the physician plain out just didn't test for them.

I agree that your testosterone is likely low.

Do you have any symptoms of low testosterone?

I don't see the endo working much magic other than a low dose of Clomid. Or Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), of course.

 

[putin]

For what it is worth I read a study a couple months back that dealt with Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) users. And on the average it took just over 6 months for there levels to return to normal. I know that is not what you want to hear but.......

That would be me in that category!

 

[FORDMAN]

How long was your cycle...did you do proper pct..what kind of gear was involved i am assuming test

 

["Lil boy"]

How long was your cycle...did you do proper pct..what kind of gear was involved i am assuming test

cycle was 15 weeks with prop and eq. proper post cycle therapy (pct) followed. oh well,, just a waiting game now ,, or go back on.

 

[FORDMAN]

Dude..looks like you gonna have to try many different approaches to get you natty test levels up...here is my suggestion..when medicine fails...try nutrition..through my experience there is no supplement for food...here is what i have seen....vegetables they work..broccoli is the mother of vegetables..it works in ways you dont even know.....eat tons of veggies....do some running..every time i do running i get a huge hard on next morning....thats right research shows running can boost GH and Test output..i say start with 20 mins...medium pace non stop....outdoors.....eat stuff that has zinc in it...like mussels and i believe clams...just do a search on rich sources of zinc..zma doesnt even come close to the real thing..its used as an aphrodisiac in many cultures...zinc also boosts testosterone..greeks used it...remeber dont over do anything..15 weeks cycle..sounds long...you gotta take it easy on things....everything is bad in extreme...another things get brewers yeast and have it every day......eat oatmeal...I am sure you will see a difference..food is very powerful and very underestimated nowadays...good luck bro.

 

[FORDMAN]

one more thing...i prefer heating veggies in the microwave..i just eat them just the way they are....dont boil them you loose nutrients doin so unless you drink the water too..

 

[soonbebig]

hey lil boy im goin though what u r my last hope was hcg im doing 500iu everyday and i feel me dick coing back i can get boners ezer but they r still soft.......after the hcg im goin to run another post cycle therapy (pct) ....i have read on thos bored if u still shut down after cycle run another post cycle therapy (pct) .............for my next cycle i am goin to run hcg throught the cycle will cost me more but i think that is the trick and i am only goin to run 8 week cycles.. fuck long cycles ..also fuck deca....i love my dick more then my muscles

 

["Lil boy"]

thanks guys,,,, as for the food and running ,,, i'm on it! i will definately give that a shot.... lets see what happens...... i'll keep you all updated.

 

[FORDMAN]

lil boy...one last thing...dont expect overnight results...do it seriously for a month...you should see a difference in a month..be patience..dont forget the zinc man...oyesters is one of the best sources of zinc....so eat those mothers....watch your alchohol intake...alchohol decreases zinc absorption by 30 to 50 percent...just use common sense stay clean....good luck bro..let us know if you get better...

 

[BigRonWannabee]

Dude..looks like you gonna have to try many different approaches to get you natty test levels up...here is my suggestion..when medicine fails...try nutrition..through my experience there is no supplement for food...here is what i have seen....vegetables they work..broccoli is the mother of vegetables..it works in ways you dont even know.....eat tons of veggies....do some running..every time i do running i get a huge hard on next morning....thats right research shows running can boost GH and Test output..i say start with 20 mins...medium pace non stop....outdoors.....eat stuff that has zinc in it...like mussels and i believe clams...just do a search on rich sources of zinc..zma doesnt even come close to the real thing..its used as an aphrodisiac in many cultures...zinc also boosts testosterone..greeks used it...remeber dont over do anything..15 weeks cycle..sounds long...you gotta take it easy on things....everything is bad in extreme...another things get brewers yeast and have it every day......eat oatmeal...I am sure you will see a difference..food is very powerful and very underestimated nowadays...good luck bro.

15 week cycle isnt long at all. Especially with EQ its not even enough time imo.

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

I'll give it to you straight - its going to take longer the 3 months to get back. No matter how much nolvadex, hcg, arimidex, ect the only real thing that works is time.

In 6 months do another test and find out then how you are-

This is one of the side effects of using AAS. You knew this (or at least i hope you were smart enough to).

Keep training hard, be strict with your nutrition and best of luck

 

["Lil boy"]

thanks dirtmonkey,,, i knew that i would be shut down... that i was expecting. though my other cycle i recovered from MUCH quicker. guess this time was a different cycle and i should expect different results. i still have that appointment tonight with the endo. i'll keep you posted on what he has to say.