Havoc Cycle

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olly1991

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Hi guys i was thinking of running a Havoc only cycle


i saw this and was wondering what other products i may need to use while on my cycle and also for post cycle therapy (pct) any help greatley appreciated cheers

Hi Guys was thinking of doing a havoc cycle for 4 weeks with cycle support and Reversitol V2 for post cycle therapy (pct) was wondering what dosages and what else i need to add in there

No URL, we have already sponsors for this kind of stuffs.
 
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First off...why the double post? Only need 1 post in 1 location. Second...you really need to take the time to find some answers for your self. Search for havoc, epistrong, epistane.....they are all the same compound with TONS of information. Plus post up your details...age, experience, height weight.....etc.
 
Don't make multiple posts. and choose the correct area.
 
ok, sorry my bad, ive done some reading up on the subject but there seems to be alot of conflicting infomation out there, im 20 years old ive been lifting since i was 17 mainly for rugby so has been quite sport specific. im 5 foot ten and am 188 lbs
 
thing is ive been weight training since i was 17 and it hasnt been where i have been guessing i have had clear guidance through my rugby coaches who to be honest i'm not trying to sound mr big bollocks but they know bang on what there talking. i know lots of people who i have played with who have made it to the top taking stuff like this at a younger age and it has worked for them, just want to know how to do it as safe as possible basically
 
Dude....2 years of training is nothing..I trained for 7 years before I ever touched anything....even then I waited another 2 years to ever do it again after that. There are a TON of alternatives that could help tremendously without ruining your endocrine system to gain some extra muscle that you could have gained naturally......or at least without steroids. Have you even considered running something like Formastanzol stacked with a test booster like HCGenerate or Phytoserms, or anything that isn't a steroid?
 
olly1991 said:
thing is ive been weight training since i was 17 and it hasnt been where i have been guessing i have had clear guidance through my rugby coaches who to be honest i'm not trying to sound mr big bollocks but they know bang on what there talking. i know lots of people who i have played with who have made it to the top taking stuff like this at a younger age and it has worked for them, just want to know how to do it as safe as possible basically
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So you have been training since you were 17...big deal. You are still a rookie. I hate to break it to you kid, but you have a lot to learn yet. Dipping into hormonals at your age is plain flat out stupid. Now if you want to let your foolish pride and young male ego take over heed my warning...hormonals are not forgiving substances to play with...you could very well screw yourself up for life. Stick with doing things the right way...stay natural and keep your diet and training in check.

If you ever want some advice or have some questions I do not mind helping you if you can keep an open mind and are willing to listen.

Cheers!

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
SamBoz19 said:
So you have been training since you were 17...big deal. You are still a rookie. I hate to break it to you kid, but you have a lot to learn yet. Dipping into hormonals at your age is plain flat out stupid. Now if you want to let your foolish pride and young male ego take over heed my warning...hormonals are not forgiving substances to play with...you could very well screw yourself up for life. Stick with doing things the right way...stay natural and keep your diet and training in check.

If you ever want some advice or have some questions I do not mind helping you if you can keep an open mind and are willing to listen.

Cheers!

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
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i know two years may not be that long but the main reason im aiming to do this is for improving my rugby drastically this would benefit me alot and means i could potentially go alot further in the sport and at the moment im playing a pretty high standard but i see what your saying at the same time and would appreciate any advice you would give etc
 
olly1991 said:
i know two years may not be that long but the main reason im aiming to do this is for improving my rugby drastically this would benefit me alot and means i could potentially go alot further in the sport and at the moment im playing a pretty high standard but i see what your saying at the same time and would appreciate any advice you would give etc
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I understand the temptation to take a shortcut to increase your performance as fast as possible. However, you would be surprised how much you can increase your performance just by using simple basics and natural substances. Creatine, Beta-Alanine, Cordyceps, BCAA's and EAA's, etc are just some examples. You need to wait a long while yet before even considering hormonals. If you think you cannot get results doing things the natural way then you are not pushing yourself hard enough and training properly.

That is all I have for now, but I will check in again with you later. If you would prefer you can feel free to pm me as well and I will help guide you the best I can.

Cheers!

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
Its pretty ridiculous....why not stick around and let us know....they always come back..when they are lost again!
 
BigKevKris said:
Its pretty ridiculous....why not stick around and let us know....they always come back..when they are lost again!
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uh uh uh, what is a good pct for x, im in wk 4

the guy at the gym told me this (the jacked trainer, so as to validate their shitty plan because they 'know' somebody) would be fine, ect ect
 
BigKevKris said:
Dude....2 years of training is nothing..I trained for 7 years before I ever touched anything....even then I waited another 2 years to ever do it again after that. There are a TON of alternatives that could help tremendously without ruining your endocrine system to gain some extra muscle that you could have gained naturally......or at least without steroids. Have you even considered running something like Formastanzol stacked with a test booster like HCGenerate or Phytoserms, or anything that isn't a steroid?
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i went the similar route, probably cause i didnt know wtf a ph was, and as a poor student couldnt afford supps.......food n weights n pussy

i will venture to say, its why some of us are in better/bigger shape than the dudes who use it (ph/aas) as a crutch

what you at now bro?
(btw, even tho we are on opposite 'teams', you are one of the reps i do respect on here, always spot on advice, n never really any pushing, good stuff)
 
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