Helladrol Starter Stack

[nolefan]

i was thinking about trying my first PH stack, Helladrol Starter Stack from Mr. supps.

from the site

Suggested Cycle:

Dosage
1-4 Helladrol - 1 capsule 3 times a day spread out morning, noon, and night.
1-4 Forged Liver Support - 1 capsule 2 times a day morning and night.
4-8 Forged Post Cycle - 2 capsules 2 times a day morning and night.
4-10 Forma Stanzol - 5 pumps rubbed on your chest 2 times a day morning and night.



I would like to take the helladrol for 6 weeks so I figure I will need another bottle of the Forged Liver Support

I am 41. Been lifting my whole life but got away from it in my late 30s.
Been lifting heavy for a year now, 4 days a week.



I have a few questions.

is this stack complete? if I need to add anything what would it be
what calorie intake should I consume? currently in a 500 calorie deficit. I am looking to make lean gain not bulk
is cardio recommend?
what other supplements can I take with helladrol? My current stack is

whey
beta alanine
fish oil
multivitamin
DAA
beast creature creatine
yohimbine hcl
pre workout craze

 

[nickb86]

helladrol is an excellent prohormone and def the right one for a beginner buddy, however to get the most from it id run it 6 weeks and add afew things to the cycle to ensure your protected and your recover is excellent. the 4 weeker and supp kit is ok but id seriously advise you to run it longer and better too get the most out of it you can, but still be as safe as possible. if going to spend all the time and cash you may aswell do it right. All the supps you have you can run but id save the Daa for pct.
id stack it up like this buddy:
1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 forged liver support
1-6 hcgenerate
1-10 need2slin (this is optional and up to you, helps with nutrition retention, not vital)
3-6 forma stanzol
PCT.
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/postcycle
7-10 daa powerchews or powder
7-10 forma stanzol
hope this helps buddy..

 

[nolefan]

thinking about going with the helladrol starter kit from mrsupps



add N2gauard. unlease/post cycle and clomid.



thoguhts





where do i find clomid?

 

[nickb86]

thinking about going with the helladrol starter kit from mrsupps
good stack but abit basic with if your going on a longer cycles ensure youve got everything in place for a 6 weeker

add N2gauard. unlease/post cycle and clomid.

if youve already got forged liver than just run this for your cycle or use the N2Guard dont need to run both buddy
thoguhts

where do i find clomid?
Look to the sponsores of this site they will have a liquid clomid available

Me in blod above ^^^^

 

[nolefan]

decided on this, thoughts?

since this is my first cycle I want to make sure it is right and I want to be safe. thanks for all the help


1-6 helladrol 50/75/75/75/75/75
1-6 N2 gaurd- do i just take as suggested? and do i take at same time as the helladrol
creatine
multivitamin
betal alanine
fish oil
prework out craze- OK to take this? I am going to not take it the first few days I start the cycle just to see how the helladrol affects me
yohimbine_ OK?

PCT.
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/postcycle
7-10 daa powder
7-10 forma stanzol
7 -10 Forged Post Cycle

 

[nickb86]

decided on this, thoughts?

since this is my first cycle I want to make sure it is right and I want to be safe. thanks for all the help


1-6 helladrol 50/75/75/75/75/75 if your going to run it id suggest running the higher dosage it will work far better and give you the results you want, i dont want you tio spend all the cash and go to the effort if your not happy with the returns, but up to you)
1-6 N2 gaurd- do i just take as suggested? and do i take at same time as the helladrol (id sperate them slightly and space your helladrol dosage out, follow the dosages on bottle and you could start the n2guard a week b4 your cycle starts-to preload, but i think youll be fine like this)
3-6 forma stanzol
I would add hcgenerate wks 1-6 to alleviate any shutdown and aid in recovery, i would def add it
creatine
multivitamin
betal alanine
fish oil
prework out craze- OK to take this? I am going to not take it the first few days I start the cycle just to see how the helladrol affects me
this fine use as you want
yohimbine OK? i wouldnt runit with the helladrol, leave it out and focus on your diet

PCT.
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/postcycle
7-10 daa powder
7-10 forma stanzol

looks good buddy me in bold above

 

[nickb86]

take a real cycle. you are 41, you have lower T levels then when you were 21.

If your goal is to increase testosterone levels to gain muscle - then why are you taking a pro hormone?? not everybody has a source and he asked about prohormones
it's not a safe/ natural alternative to anabolic androgenic steroids AAS. If the pro hormone converts to testosterone then you subject yourself to the same exact side effects of AAS.
Prohormones are about the same price of the real thing, sometimes more.

MRSupps products are sheer crap. Forma Stanzol??? MRSupps states: "It's one of the world's most potent aromatase inhibitors that Started out as a prescription drug here in the U.S" which products did you try and which are crap ? they have a long money back guarentee, if your not happy you can return them. Have you tried formastanzol ?

Is this a joke? no cancer patient has EVER taken Forma Stanzol or been prescribed by a doctor to take it. it was goin to be used but was declined as in larger dosages its anabolic, forma stanzol is formestane and aromasin is exemestane very similar btw but not identical, forma raises free test and igf1 levels and has no toxicity and yes they are both Ais, excellent product for pct

I was in your shoes once. Taking prohormones because I wanted to increase my testosterone but not too much like AAS. But with prohormones you have no idea what you're taking or how much will convert to testosterone. true a test cycle is better than a prohormone usually, but not everyone wants to inject, not everyone has a source and some people dont want to cycle so long

heres my advice, dont use prohormone garbage, don't F**k up your liver with oral only cycles, use the real thing (an injectable testosterone) and use a slightly lower dose (300-400mg/week). use real aromatase inhibitors, take real PCT meds.

i agree with some things, me in bold ^^

 

[gymrat827]

The starter stack with a serm in post cycle therapy (pct) will be all your going to need.

I'd go higher than 25mg of clomid tho. 50-75mg.


Yes forma stanzol is a legit product. Think of it as topical aromasin.

 

[nickb86]

The starter stack with a serm in pct will be all your going to need.

I'd go higher than 25mg of clomid tho. 50-75mg.


Yes forma stanzol is a legit product. Think of it as topical aromasin.

25mg is all thats needed for hpta function help and i have the studies to prove it.

If your running the helladrol 6 weeks with it may not be enough and could be done better, i strongly advise you use n2guard with the run your planning but up to you OP.
if your worried about suppression use hcgenerate on cycle as a precaution, cycle aswell as you can and take all the precautions youll enjoy it more and most likely get more from it.

 

[Methodology]

Helladrol must be ran for 6 weeks, I didn't start to get gains until my 5th week. Take 5 caps of N2Guard before bed, this way the bottle will last 6 weeks. Otherwise it looks good, but please please please take Transaderm (if you got the $$$) or at least D-Aspartic Acid for a test base, unless you want to have little grapes going into your PCT.

 

[nolefan]

almost ready to go. got everything in, just waiting on HC generate and clomid. should be in a few days. looking to start Sunday

going with this. any advcie/ suggestions/Tips?



1-6 Helladrol- 75/75/75/100/100/100- may go to 100 if I feel OK after the first few days
1-6 N2 guard
1-6 HC generate


PCT

7-10 Clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Unleashed
7-10 forma stanzol
7-10 DAA

 

[nickb86]

almost ready to go. got everything in, just waiting on HC generate and clomid. should be in a few days. looking to start Sunday

going with this. any advcie/ suggestions/Tips?



1-6 Helladrol- 75/75/75/100/100/100- may go to 100 if I feel OK after the first few days run the last week at 125 if you can
1-6 N2 guard
1-6 HC generate
3-6 forma stanzol

PCT

7-10 Clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Unleashed and post cycle
7-10 forma stanzol
7-10 DAA

Look s good bud but id make the changes above ^^^^ in BOLD

 

[nolefan]

Look s good bud but id make the changes above ^^^^ in BOLD

thinking about running the helladrol 100 from the start and all 6 weeks. any issue with this?

 

[nickb86]

id just stick to the dosage listed buddy and gradually increase i wouldnt jump straight into 100, if its your 1st go get all you can, but tread abit carefully you can also run a mega dosage on your next cycle. From what iv seen, peoples logs iv read etc the dosage i described is best in relation to gains and sides from the hormone, just run it 6 weeks like we said and im sure youll love it, dont do anything to extreme on your 1st go, can always adapt and change things on another run.
focus on your diet and training regiment and the gains will be there buddy.

 

[nolefan]

id just stick to the dosage listed buddy and gradually increase i wouldnt jump straight into 100, if its your 1st go get all you can, but tread abit carefully you can also run a mega dosage on your next cycle. From what iv seen, peoples logs iv read etc the dosage i described is best in relation to gains and sides from the hormone, just run it 6 weeks like we said and im sure youll love it, dont do anything to extreme on your 1st go, can always adapt and change things on another run.
focus on your diet and training regiment and the gains will be there buddy.

thansk for all your help

 

[nickb86]

no problem buddy good luck with your cycle if you need anything else just ask or pm me and il do my best to help

 

[gymrat827]

25mg clomid is a joke man. Lol

 

[Slayer8633]

25 mg just seems way to low..
I'd feel like I'd need to jump on at least 75mg clomid for the 1st week and 50mg Ed for the next 3 weeks of pct, 100 or over and I get blurry vision and depressed and whiny as a little girl

 

[nolefan]

i can go 50 then 75 for the clomid


question abou the clomid


the bottle says 70ml 35mg/ml

came with a dropper that has 1-10


how to dose? would .8 on dropper be 25?

 

[Slayer8633]

It would be 28 bro, .2 is 7mg, .4 is 14mg, .6 is 21 mg, .8 is 28 mg and 1.0 is 35mg.
You can run 2 full ml everyday for the 1st week,so it would be 70mg. Then just go 1ml Ed for the next 3 weeks. So that's 35mg.
It would look like 70/35/35/35. And that would finish off exactly half of your bottle of clomid.
You shouldn't have any bad sides with a dose that low. 25mg just didn't do shit for me, at least double that to be safe bro. Let me know how it goes and what you decide. Goodluck