help me make a split

The Conquistador

Ology's Golden Boy
Ok so I got a job, part time and the hours are killing me. all over and at weird times and my lifting bud can only lift at night but im usually scheduled as a closer a lot. because of this and my recent move to columbus i have lost a lot of mass in my legs and back along with shoulders. eating is hard too as i am always running from one place to another. I need a at least 4 day split of heavy ass mass building lifts to do that will help me bulk up asap again and fill out well. anyone have a good split for me? the things i focused on i am doing well in (inclining 245 for 4 last set of 3 sets) but even flat bench suffers. I think its under control and coming around now with the eating trying to be in place. any comments are appreciated
 
blackbeard said:
PB's routine or a 3 day westside variation would be perfect
Agreed. Either are solid, and proven. I prefer (at this point/time in my training) to roll with a modified 3-4day/wk Westside split.
 
How about the classic 3-day "Legs Push Pull" split? Mon: legs Wed: chest shoulders triceps Fri: back biceps
 
mr.db is on point with what he said.the only thing i would change would be to go pull-mon.push-wed.legs fri.because you get a weekend to rest those sore ass legs.that gives you 2 whole off days between legs and your back and off chest off between back and legs.i like it.take a look at the stickys too.
 
corteztk1982 said:
you have any links to those westside splits. i looked on here and didnt seem to come up with any
Right atop this forum:

From Iron Addict, for example:

WESTSIDE BARBELL
Here is a sample of ONE of my 4 different Westside Barbell modifications. This is may all time favorite way to train as it gives SUPERIOR strength gains, and size gains are great also. Usually the size gains are as good as anything other than volume, but unlike volume, most can do this style of training productively I have been working on the modifications of the basic WSB format for a couple of years now and have FINALLY got all the pieces together to make this system work WONDERFUL for trainees at all levels. THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD WSB FORMAT. Many, if not most trainees just don’t hold up well to the frequency of the standard WSB format, myself included.

The format shown is for guys that have average to above average recovery ability. If you are a hardgainer or extreme hardgainer this is not the format to attempt. I will post a sample of that soon. What will this type of routine do for many if not most of you? Build strength faster than any BB program you have ever tried by a long shot. Just strength? Nope! For most of you, size will be awesome to. It may be the fastest way for many of you to reach your lifting goals, .Whether you are a BB’er or PL’er. I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU THAT ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH YOUR CURRENT LEVEL OF PROGRESS TO TRY THIS FOR 4 WEEKS! If it works, you can do more studying and put together something on your own, or have me design a full routine and diet for you. A few things to keep in mind:

It is only a SAMPLE and is not laid out exactly like I write them for clients for a few reasons. I wanted to make sure EVERYONE had access and ability to do the lifts listed, and everyone that has even a modest gym can do these. I used a 3-week (it ends up being closer to 4 actual weeks because of the rotating format) on the ME lifts for simplicity sake. SOME lifters do get a 3 week rotation on ME lifts and other get 2 weeks, or even one. There is no waving of the weights or volume for either the DE work or the repetition work. Again this was done for simplicity sake, and I also can’t give it all away-lol. And last but not least, not knowing who will be attempting it, it is quite generic. But I will bet that anyone that recovers even remotely well will do extremely well on it. After just 4 weeks you WILL have a higher bench, squat and deadlift.

REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY A PARTIAL SAMPLE OF THE FORMAT, AND YOU CANNOT, I REPEAT CANNOT JUST RUN THIS SAMPLE FOR LONGER THAN THE WEEKS SHOWN. WSB CHANGES THE ME WORK EVERY 1-3 WEEKS, AND THE REST OF THE LIFTS MUST BE CHANGED FREQUENTLY ALSO FOR IT TO WORK. IF YOU NEED MORE INFO ON THIS CONTACT ME.

Monday ME Squat,
Arched Back Good Morning in Rack, 2 inches above parallel, 1 max set of 3 reps
Box Squat 2 x 8 at parallel, should have 2 reps left in you for all sets.
Glute/ham raise 3 x 8 to failure
Barbell Row 3 x 8, NTF
Dumbbell Curl 3 x10, NTF

Tuesday Off

Wednesday ME Bench
CG bench press in rack 4 inches from chest, 1 max set of 1 reps
Skull Crushers, straight bar 3 x 10, only last set to failure
Dumbell bench press 2 x 10, only last set close to failure
Lateral raise 4 x 10, NTF
Abs, HEAVY 3 x 10

Thursday Off

Friday DE Squat
DE Box squat at parallel 2 reps x 6 sets, 45 TIMED seconds between sets
Pull-Throughs 3 x 10 Only Last set close to Failure
Glute/ham 3 x to failure, or reverse hyper 3 x 8
Lat Pulldown, wide grip 4 x 6, NTF
BB Curl 3 x 6, NTF

Saturday Off

Sunday Off

__________________________________________________ __________

Monday DE Bench
Speed Bench press 3 reps x 6 sets, 45 TIMED seconds between sets
JM Press 3 x 6, NTF
Tricep Pushdowns 3 x 8, NTF
Dumbell Shoulder press 3 x 8 OR lateral raises, NTF
Hanging leg Raises 3x 10

Tuesday Off

Wednesday ME Squat
Arched Back Good Morning in Rack, 2 inches above parallel, 1 max set of 3 reps
Box Squat 2 x 8 at parallel, should have 2 reps left in you for all sets.
Glute/ham raise 3 x 8 to failure
Barbell Row 3 x 8, NTF
Dumbbell Curl 3 x10, NTF

Thursday Off

Friday ME Bench
CG bench press in rack 4 inches from chest, 1 max set of 1 reps
Skull Crushers, straight bar 3 x 10, only last set to failure
Dumbell bench press 2 x 10, only last set close to failure
Lateral raise 4 x 10, NTF
Abs, HEAVY 3 x 10

Saturday Off

Sunday Off

__________________________________________________ __________

Monday DE Squat
DE Box squat at parallel 2 reps x 6 sets, 45 TIMED seconds between sets
Pull-Throughs 3 x 10 Only Last set close to Failure
Glute/ham 3 x to failure, or reverse hyper 3 x 8
Lat pulldown, wide grip 4 x 6, NTF
BB Curl 3 x 6, NTF

Tuesday Off

Wednesday DE Bench
Speed Bench press 3 reps x 6 sets, 45 TIMED seconds between sets
JM Press 3 x 6, NTF
Triceps Pushdowns 3 x 8, NTF
Dumbbell Shoulder press 3 x 8 OR lateral raises, NTF
Hanging leg Raises 3 x 10

Thursday Off

Friday ME Squat
Arched Back Good Morning in Rack, 2 inches above parallel, 1 max set of 3 reps
Box Squat 2 x 8 at parallel, should have 2 reps left in you for all sets.
Glute/ham raise 3 x 8 to failure
Barbell Row 3 x 8, NTF
Dumbbell Curl 3 x10, NTF

Saturday Off

Sunday Off
__________________________________________________ _________________

Monday ME Bench
CG bench press in rack 4 inches from chest, 1 max set of 1 reps
Skull Crushers, straight bar 3 x 10, only last set to failure
Dumbbell bench press 2 x 10, only last set close to failure
Lateral raise 4 x 10, NTF
Abs, HEAVY 3 x 10

Tuesday Off

Wednesday DE Squat
DE Box squat at parallel 2 reps x 6 sets, 45 TIMED seconds between sets
Pull-Throughs 3 x 10 Only Last set close to Failure
Glute/ham 3 x to failure, or reverse hyper 3 x 8
Lat pulldown, wide grip 4 x 6, NTF
BB Curl 3 x 6, NTF

Thursday Off


Friday DE Bench
Speed Bench press 3 reps x 6 sets, 45 TIMED seconds between sets
JM Press 3 x 6, NTF
Tricep Pushdowns 3 x 8, NTF
Dumbbell Shoulder press 3 x 8 OR lateral raises, NTF
Hanging leg Raises 3 x 10

* NTF means NOT to Failure


If you have just read this and are totally unfamiliar with WSB DO NOT POST A BUNCH OF BASIC QUESTIONS. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT DE OR ME MEANS, OR OTHER SIMILAR STUFF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO ATTEMPT THIS. YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF WESTSIDE BARBELL PRINCIPLES BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS. Go to the WSB section of my site: http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=63
 
heres my old one from before i moved and i had it all together

Mon--chest
Flat bench
Incline bench
DB flat bench
decline bench
*DB shrugs 5 sets

Tues shoulders
DB mil press
BB mil press
Machine lateral raise
machine mil press
*Deads

Wednes
Legs---
Squats
Leg extensions
leg press
Tri's----
*BB skulls
*DB behind the neck
*cable behind the neck press

Thurs--off

Fri (did a heavy day for alternating parts, usually did 2 sets, 6 and 4reps for as heavy as i could go. usually on basic exercises like..
Flat BB bench
DB bench
Standing bi BB curls
military press
DB shoulder press

never did all those in one day but usually did about 3 and mixed em. saw great growth when i did at the start.

I look this over and still dont know where i added Bi's in but need to and back> this is tha problem im having is trying to find one i like with this stuff that gets it all in and that i can grow like mad on but im not sure ill be able to lift every day as i need a bud and i have a part time job with weird hours.

I asterix'ed the exercises i know i did but i wasnt sure what day or where they fit in. if u could help me out it would be awesome or suggest other stuff that would be better. thanks
 
it works for anyone. page 6 deadlift sticky. its posted at IAs as well under exmgq simple powerlifting routine. its a nice starting routine for anyone looking to build strength and add some size. if you got some questions regardng it post them or pm me.
 
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