Help needed with PCT, Did a cycle, cannot cruise as I thought I could.

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AshleyWoodo

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Hey everyone. So, I started a cycle of Test E, which I was on for 10 weeks, 250mg/E3D then I decided to cruise afterwords I've cruised for roughly 4weeks on a 100mg E3D dose. However because of life at the moment and going to Uni, I need to come off as I don't want to take it with me as the possibility of being kicked off my degree would suck!

My PCT stack which are pills and which is all I've got is as follows.

Clomithene citrate (clomid) 20mg
Mesterlone 12.5mg
Tamoxifen citrate (nolva I believe) 10mg
Letrozole 2.5mg

This is all in one tablet, there's 50 45mg tablets in the tub, how do I preceed to take? 2weeks after my last jab? I start/how many/ thanks. Sorry!
 
PCT should only encompass Clomifene and Tamoxifen. Not the other ones you have listed.

Have you read the Sticky Threads for PCT protocols?

Did you use hCG while you were on cycle/cruising? I hope so as that will improve your chances for recovering your Natty T.

What was your TT at pre-cycle?
 
I didn't get my TT checked pre cycle. Nor did I use HCG. It seems as though I clearly didn't research as well as I should've. I read Clova/Nova was usually used by a wide majority for post cycle therapy. I didn't want to play around with HCG from what I had read about it.

Also, thank you for the response.
 
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AshleyWoodo said:
I didn't get my TT checked pre cycle. Nor did I use HCG. It seems as though I clearly didn't research as well as I should've. I read Clova/Nova was usually used by a wide majority for post cycle therapy. I didn't want to play around with HCG from what I had read about it.

Also, thank you for the response.
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Make sure you don't use those pills you have. You need Clomid and Nolva for PCT. You can get them from RUI if you don't have a source. Their ad is at the top of your screen (Full Site).
 
Thank you. I won't be able to afford them for another 8weeks. What would you advise someone in my position to do? Thank you for the advice.
 
AshleyWoodo said:
Thank you. I won't be able to afford them for another 8weeks. What would you advise someone in my position to do? Thank you for the advice.
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For the future, never start a cycle until you have everything in hand first. And do more homework. But at least you are here now asking questions.

For now, stay on your cruise dose until you can get your PCT meds. Start running hCG at 250-500iu twice a week if you have it. Run the hCG until three days before PCT starts. PCT would start about 2-3 weeks after your last test injection. It needs time to clear your system.

If you have not donated blood within the last 56 days, you should do so again. Exogenous testosterone raises hematocrit. You need to manage it.

We're you using an AI during your cycle? Have you checked blood work to see if you need an AI on your cruise dose?

Can you tell us your age, height, weight, body fat % and number of years training?
 
Thanks, I deffinately won't be running another cycle, I haven't donated blood ever actually. I've been taking ai on my cruise dose as well as when I was actually on cycle. I took armidex one every 3 whilst on and one a week whilst cruising. However I have had no side effects.

I'm 20, 6ft, 205pounds. Body fat would be around 20%ish as I'm more strength orientated. Three years. I just wanted to be able to recover faster.

Saying that this is more important, just sold something to a friend. So I'll be able to get nova/clomid this weekend. I can't take HCG.

My last pin was yesterday. So in 2 weeks from this Saturday or three would be optimal, then how would you suggest I take it/days dosages etc. the nolvadex is 30tabs of 10mg and the call is 30 tabs of 50mg. Thank you.

Edit or should I say -I won't be running another until I'm atleast around the 25mark where Im at least more competent with the subject.- though even then, I doubt it, as I really haven't felt a major difference.
 
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Clomiphene @ 75/50/50/50
Tamoxifen @ 40/20/20/20

I'm assuming, they're week intervals. So two weeks on Saturday, then every Saturday for 4 weeks? Is that correct? Thankyou.
 
AshleyWoodo said:
Clomiphene @ 75/50/50/50
Tamoxifen @ 40/20/20/20

I'm assuming, they're week intervals. So two weeks on Saturday, then every Saturday for 4 weeks? Is that correct? Thankyou.
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That means 75mg and 40mg daily of Clomid and Nolva respectively the first week. In the second week it is 50 and 20mg daily of each. And so on. Sounds like you didn't order enough based on your previous post. PCT is definitely not the place to skimp. You want to make sure your Natty T turns back on -- otherwise you will be pinning the rest of your life.

One when. said early that you took 1 AI every three days, what does that mean? How many mg were you taking and how often?

Just keep in mind that HPTA recovery at your young age is more difficult as your endocrine system is still developing. You may never fully recover your previous Natty T levels.

Make sure to get blood work about 6 weeks after PCT ends to see how well it worked. See my signature and read the link that Tbone gave you to see how and where to get blood work.
 
There's some I've seen for £**** per bottle. Apologies! I took 1mg of Armidex weekly on the cruise and 2mg spread out after the pin on. Saturday/wed when I was on cycle.
 
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There's some I've seen for £**** per bottle. Apologies! I took 1mg of Armidex weekly on the cruise and 2mg spread out after the pin on. Saturday/wed when I was on cycle.
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That was likely WAY TOO MUCH Arimidex. Punch the guy in the nose that told you to take that much. Did you ever check your estradiol to see where it was coming in at on those dosages? My guess is that you crashed your estradiol. No wonder you didn't feel good on your cycle.
 
I'm genuinely quite worried now if I'm honest. That's probably why the only thing that was affected was my recovery time, do you suggest to stop taking the ai?
 
Where would I get blood work done? I've only got £40 to my name. Until the end of next month.

-To also point out, I don't think I feel any different now to then when I started, is there a possibility it was all bunk?
 
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I genuinely don't know where to go from here. Would going on a cruise dose of 200mg a week until I'm capable of affording the correct pct work? Then get my pct, then after doing my pct, going to the Gp and get my blood done?
 
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