Help with first cycle:)

[Krazynuts]

Hey guys
I now have a source, and am going to run a cycle of 500mg a week of test for 12 weeks
And 30-40mg of D-Bol for 4 weeks

This is my first cycle, and would like opinions

Also could you please help me plan my pct and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? There's a few opinions on this, so I would like help deciphering through the crap

Btw I am 6 foot, 104 kilos and 16% bodyfat

 

[Krazynuts]

Bump

 

[6tom6tom6]

Since its your first time just do the test for 12 weeks. Have some nolvadex incase of gyno and start some clomid 3 days after your last test injection. Maybe start off with like 250mg a week for the first week...just to see how you react to it, thats what i would do. Kind of ease into it. Its your body, do whatever you feel you can handle =)

 

[DaHurt]

start some clomid 3 days after your last test injection.

Doesn't this depend on the length of the ester? And if it is either test E or C it would be 2 weeks after last injection due to the half life of the drug, correct? But the OP didn't specify which ester the test is.

 

[DaHurt]

Hey guys
I now have a source, and am going to run a cycle of 500mg a week of test for 12 weeks
And 30-40mg of D-Bol for 4 weeks

This is my first cycle, and would like opinions

Also could you please help me plan my post cycle therapy (pct) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? There's a few opinions on this, so I would like help deciphering through the crap

Btw I am 6 foot, 104 kilos and 16% bodyfat

BTW all the experienced guys are going to tell you not to run the dbol first cycle - just read around some dude.

 

[Krazynuts]

Ok it is test E so when would I start clomid?
I appreciate the help guys
I may just run a straight test cycle to ease into it

 

[Krazynuts]

So I know to start clomid 2 weeks after the last injection due to the time test E stays in the system
Can someone please tell me when to take hgc though please?

 

[park]

Run test E or C 500-600mg a week split into two pins. Save the Dbol for another run.

Run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like aromasin ed 12.5mg ed. Run it all the way thru Pct.
If using Test E or C start Pct two weeks after last pin.

Pct
clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20

Hope your over 25!

PPl use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) different. Some blast at the end and some run thru entire cycle. Personaly Id do 250iu two times a week thru cycle. Btw Ill never run another cycle without it.

 

[what to do]

i will have to agree on the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). it will make a big diff. i have always taken it at the end of a cycle but have started taking in during and it does make a big diff. I know i am new here but have many year exper. if i can help in any way please ask if i do not know the answer i will find it. and i can help with anything else you might need.

 

[China_Wall]

i will have to agree on the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). it will make a big diff. i have always taken it at the end of a cycle but have started taking in during and it does make a big diff. I know i am new here but have many year exper. if i can help in any way please ask if i do not know the answer i will find it. and i can help with anything else you might need.

dude... u really have to back off on the being a source talk... no place for that kind of BS on here

 

[China_Wall]

Since its your first time just do the test for 12 weeks. Have some nolvadex incase of gyno and start some clomid 3 days after your last test injection. Maybe start off with like 250mg a week for the first week...just to see how you react to it, thats what i would do. Kind of ease into it. Its your body, do whatever you feel you can handle =)

get some basic knowledge before u start giving advice bro... clomid 3 days after last test inject??? that's ridiculous, should be 2 weeks, even 3 is ok... and the BS about starting the test at 250mg to see how his body reacts??? he's not gonna know until the 4 or 5 week so what would be the point of the cycle?
at least I'm being an asshole in a nice way lol

 

[bigherm2121]

Guys before you give him info its a good idea to get his age so you can give him accurate info. Come on!! How old are you? These things matter

 

[bigherm2121]

Ps I'm about the same weight I'm about 220 at 6 foot. How do you know your 16% bf? You seem like your more then 16% that's still a bit high and more prone to sides.

 

[China_Wall]

good point... age? years of training? current diet? will all help us to give a good read

 

[Krazynuts]

I appreciate the help guys
Diet is clean, just finishe bulking
I know I'm 16% as I have just had a bodyfat test done with calipers
I am 24, and have been training for 2 years
So should I strip a bit before the cycle?

 

[Bullseye Forever]

IMO drop the dbol!!! and just run test alone for your first cycle....you'll be glad you did,cause dbol will aromatize very fast and you will have a shitload of water weight gained,plus your bodyfat is a little high,thats gonna increase your chances of higher sides,plus you dont know what sides you will get from test either,so just run test for your 1st cycle and if you have side efx,you can deal with them and you will know what caused them,if you run dbol and test you wont know which onw is causing the sides..just my .02

 

[park]

IMO drop the dbol!!! and just run test alone for your first cycle....you'll be glad you did,cause dbol will aromatize very fast and you will have a shitload of water weight gained,plus your bodyfat is a little high,thats gonna increase your chances of higher sides,plus you dont know what sides you will get from test either,so just run test for your 1st cycle and if you have side efx,you can deal with them and you will know what caused them,if you run dbol and test you wont know which onw is causing the sides..just my .02

I would do what this...If you dont have post cycle therapy (pct) and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) youre not ready. 1st rule, everything in hand before you start.

 

[bigherm2121]

Ya bf is a tad high but with that being said run aromasin at 12.5 mg everyday from the start of your cycle. If you notice sensitive nipples or tanked libido up it to .25ed..You don't know if you will have sodes or not. Yoi should hit it hard and drop to around 14% before you start. If your diet is pimp and so is your training you can achieve that in a month. See 3j in the diet section. He's the manbro!!

 

[DaHurt]

Sweet I was right. I'm learning!

 

[bigherm2121]

Sweet I was right. I'm learning!

Lol sure are.If you listen to me you might be diesel like me. Lol jk u look good no homo. But you'd rather look like me then matt. I'm Hellas sexy.