ManOfMuscle
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Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
Will my pituitary stop producing its own growth hormone if I take injectible GH?
If you are an adult, your pituitary is already not producing very much growth hormone... and whatever little amount it is releasing is diminishing with age. Your pituitary, however, will continue to produce and release whatever it does independent of injectible growth hormone (but it might release a little more than it would have, because the pituitary itself might be benefitted from growth hormone) because there is not a feedback mechanism, as there is with testosterone... In any case, if you stop taking growth hormone, your pituitary continues releasing at least what it would have, and maybe more, without any negative effect from your having taken injectible growth hormone.
What happens to a person who takes HGH for a year then stops taking it? Does the body pick up where it left off or are there risks involved?
There certainly are risks involved: your body starts aging again!
There are no side effects if you stop doing a good thing for your body, except you can't get the benefits of doing the good thing. Your body just loses most of the benefits after a few months or years, and will go on its merry way, aging normally. Remember, this is not A CURE, this is A TREATMENT. Stop the treatment, and you stop the benefits. That's all that happens: you stop getting the benefits and you continue to age normally.
What happens if you stop eating meat? You stop getting the benefits of eating meat, but you continue getting the benefits of eating vegetables, I suppose. That is what will happen if I stop "eating" growth hormone, because I consider growth hormone a part of my daily breakfast. I will not get the benefit of growth hormone anymore, but I will continue to get the benefit of whatever else I eat.
If you are an adult, your pituitary is already not producing very much growth hormone... and whatever little amount it is releasing is diminishing with age. Your pituitary, however, will continue to produce and release whatever it does independent of injectible growth hormone (but it might release a little more than it would have, because the pituitary itself might be benefitted from growth hormone) because there is not a feedback mechanism, as there is with testosterone... In any case, if you stop taking growth hormone, your pituitary continues releasing at least what it would have, and maybe more, without any negative effect from your having taken injectible growth hormone.
What happens to a person who takes HGH for a year then stops taking it? Does the body pick up where it left off or are there risks involved?
There certainly are risks involved: your body starts aging again!
There are no side effects if you stop doing a good thing for your body, except you can't get the benefits of doing the good thing. Your body just loses most of the benefits after a few months or years, and will go on its merry way, aging normally. Remember, this is not A CURE, this is A TREATMENT. Stop the treatment, and you stop the benefits. That's all that happens: you stop getting the benefits and you continue to age normally.
What happens if you stop eating meat? You stop getting the benefits of eating meat, but you continue getting the benefits of eating vegetables, I suppose. That is what will happen if I stop "eating" growth hormone, because I consider growth hormone a part of my daily breakfast. I will not get the benefit of growth hormone anymore, but I will continue to get the benefit of whatever else I eat.
Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
What dose should I use?
Take a blood test with what you have been injecting, and you would like your IGF-1 to be close to 500 but at least 350 to 500. My IGF-1 comes out 500 to 550, with 2 iu per day. I am 6'0" and I weigh 75 to 78 kilos most of the time, and I am not a body builder. If I weighed more I might use 2.5 iu or if I was trying to build my body for a contest I might use 4 or 5 iu per day.
Nobody knows the IDEAL dose. What you want is NO SIDE EFFECTs and you want good results. Tell me your height weight and age, and what you want to do, and I will give you my guess...
There are two ways of looking at which is the ideal dose... the first is what many doctors advise, which is: take the LEAST DOSE THAT WILL BRING YOU THE DESIRED BENEFITS... the second is what I do for myself: take the MAXIMUM DOSE THAT WILL BRING YOU THE DESIRED BENEFITS WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS IN THE LONG RUN. I go along with the second... but it is difficult to know: WHICH is the highest dose that will not cause side effects in the long run? In any case, the best dose is probably 2 or more units per day, and less than 5 units per day...
I know somebody who got carpal tunnel syndrome (pain in the wrists) with 10 iu per day, and the pains went away when he dropped the dose to 8 iu per day... So, maybe 8 iu is safe enough, but I would stay away from 8 iu until I hear more good or bad experience from bodybuilders. I have NO intention to be a brave pioneer who is burned in the name of leading the way, since there are plenty of volunteers for this position among body builders.
Take a blood test with what you have been injecting, and you would like your IGF-1 to be close to 500 but at least 350 to 500. My IGF-1 comes out 500 to 550, with 2 iu per day. I am 6'0" and I weigh 75 to 78 kilos most of the time, and I am not a body builder. If I weighed more I might use 2.5 iu or if I was trying to build my body for a contest I might use 4 or 5 iu per day.
Nobody knows the IDEAL dose. What you want is NO SIDE EFFECTs and you want good results. Tell me your height weight and age, and what you want to do, and I will give you my guess...
There are two ways of looking at which is the ideal dose... the first is what many doctors advise, which is: take the LEAST DOSE THAT WILL BRING YOU THE DESIRED BENEFITS... the second is what I do for myself: take the MAXIMUM DOSE THAT WILL BRING YOU THE DESIRED BENEFITS WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS IN THE LONG RUN. I go along with the second... but it is difficult to know: WHICH is the highest dose that will not cause side effects in the long run? In any case, the best dose is probably 2 or more units per day, and less than 5 units per day...
I know somebody who got carpal tunnel syndrome (pain in the wrists) with 10 iu per day, and the pains went away when he dropped the dose to 8 iu per day... So, maybe 8 iu is safe enough, but I would stay away from 8 iu until I hear more good or bad experience from bodybuilders. I have NO intention to be a brave pioneer who is burned in the name of leading the way, since there are plenty of volunteers for this position among body builders.
running gun
Gear In Motion
$2.00 an IU for pharmaceutical grade. That's what I got it for.
I agree Caladin, I'm trying to get as much info as possible before I start.
So far Ulter has the most experience I've found. I'm 41 at 220lbs, 6' and plan on running 4 IU’s a day with weekends off as TS and Ulter.
I agree Caladin, I'm trying to get as much info as possible before I start.
So far Ulter has the most experience I've found. I'm 41 at 220lbs, 6' and plan on running 4 IU’s a day with weekends off as TS and Ulter.
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Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
ulter said:
ulter said:
With all due respect to ulter, taking 4iu's/day of HGH non stop for seven years, and nearly a gram/week of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) non stop for six and a half years, he should be much leaner and carrying a hell of a lot more muscle.
IMO, the risk of negative side effects at those doses for that length of time, not to mention the $ expense, certainly have'nt been justified by the results. To each his own!
simpllyhuge
New member
so ur natural gh levels start producing normally again to what they were before u started gh once you stop supplemeting.
Deepglute
30 YEARS AAS EXPERIENCE
That was always my concern with HGH, coming off and having your natural levels supressed. According to the author of the website I posted, there is no negative feedback loop with HGH. He claims that injecting HGH may even increase natural production. Probably not enough people using HGH therapy to warrent any studies.simpllyhuge said:
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