HGH muscle v.s. AAS muscle

[planb]

It seems to me like its the muscle you gain from each is completely different. To my naked eye at lest. Ppl on hgh seem to build more quality long term muslce that stays and vascularity is insane. Whereas aas seems to build more bulky watery muscle. I mean look at some of the nfl players. I.e. Julius Peppers you can just tell he is or was on hgh, just a different look. What do you guys think?

 

[UserAt204]

Not true at all. Diet makes you have a watery look or a cut vascular look.

Gh without AAS=not much muscle gain at all, maybe some fatloss, plus better skin etc
AAS w/o gh and you can still accomplish either look.

Gh + AAS and you can add a lot of mass and continue to eat big while staying lean. Fuller muscles and faster recovery. The combination has a synergy and I get what you are saying but I think it's more of AAS vs GH/AAS.

 

[Zeek]

I agree with user as far as the muscle building argument.

Like he also said, if it is anti aging benefits, some fat loss etc it can be a good stand alone.

 

[planb]

Not true at all. Diet makes you have a watery look or a cut vascular look.

Gh without AAS=not much muscle gain at all, maybe some fatloss, plus better skin etc
AAS w/o gh and you can still accomplish either look.

Gh + AAS and you can add a lot of mass and continue to eat big while staying lean. Fuller muscles and faster recovery. The combination has a synergy and I get what you are saying but I think it's more of AAS vs GH/AAS.

Point taken must be the aas/gh vs. plain aas

 

[China_Wall]

planb... sorry, but ur completely mistaken... diet and genetics play more of a role in the physique potential of anyone...

I'm I'm in complete agreement with User and Zeek, gh alone is NOT a muscle builder

 

[planb]

planb... sorry, but ur completely mistaken... diet and genetics play more of a role in the physique potential of anyone...

I'm I'm in complete agreement with User and Zeek, gh alone is NOT a muscle builder

China, You don't think hgh changes your skeletal physique at all?

I think gh alone can be used as a muscle builder if taken at higher dose, obviously not as rapid and potent as aas, but I think you can def build some quality muscle just by gh alone. Dont u think?

 

[Shovel]

Gh alone, no. Gh and slin, yes. You need to understand the body's processes before jumping to gh. (though most don't)
Higher doses of gh will cause cell growth and some skeletal changes. Fact. As far as higher doses, you want to be careful, if you dose 5 or more iu's at a time, you almost NEED to take insulin with it. The reason is gh causes acute insulin resistance which is characterized by a marked increase in bg. Over time, this could build up a permanent insulin resistance.

 

[biceptears]

can gh be used in small amounts on your first cycle?

would this be a bad idea?

 

[China_Wall]

Gh alone, no. Gh and slin, yes. You need to understand the body's processes before jumping to gh. (though most don't)
Higher doses of gh will cause cell growth and some skeletal changes. Fact. As far as higher doses, you want to be careful, if you dose 5 or more iu's at a time, you almost NEED to take insulin with it. The reason is gh causes acute insulin resistance which is characterized by a marked increase in bg. Over time, this could build up a permanent insulin resistance.

plan b... this ^^ is spot-on as far as gh info.. I can tell Mr. Shovel is speaking with experience

gh is something that should not be jumped into blindly

 

[MattPorter]

That "watery" muscle from AAS is not enturely from the AAS per se, just the person who decided to use them without a solid foundation of naturally built muscle...

I see the "blow up dolls" all the time...big as hell for a period of a cycle,,,,,then they disappear. It may even be lean, but the density is not there, the fibers aren't strong....

-Matt

 

[Osta-Marketing]

Diet is what makes the muscle not drugs. HGH causes a cell splicing doubling the muscle but anabolics cause a cell volumizing filling the muscle. That is the difference. They work well with each other. That's why you always should add a peptide to your cycle to get that quality pro look muscle in your animal experiments.

 

[MattPorter]

Diet is what makes the muscle not drugs. HGH causes a cell splicing doubling the muscle but anabolics cause a cell volumizing filling the muscle. That is the difference. They work well with each other. That's why you always should add a peptide to your cycle to get that quality pro look muscle in your animal experiments.

Very good post!!!!!

 

[bigger7live]

Good read!

 

[KingBF]

every thread on GH I learn something new

 

[CageBreed]

I like them together, but HGH alone is not going to pack on much muscle

 

[Black Beard]

The muscle is the same. The difference you are talking about comes from the water effect some androgens have, which can be related to e2. It is true, diet will also have an effect, but the muscle itself is the same.