hi to all,need cycle advice

[PilaS]

Hi to all,in the past i waso nly doing bulking on all cycles,now ihave 12 vials of legit tren a and 3 vials of test p.
i will be doing 10 12 weeks of tren a with lows test p,i never liked use more than 200 mg of test and i like that i dont need to use ai cause low test p dose then i dont have water retention cause diet is correct(thanks to 3j and all of his articles,cause all i know is cause i read 3j cycle and diet articles)

Now i will be doing maintenance calories instead 4600 kcal that was using on all past cycles.

i will do 700 mg tren a per week with 1mg of caber per week and 175mg of test p(this is my favourite cycle,i did this cycle a lot of times)

but the thing is,i can get legit gh and i can use like 3 ui per day,normally i do 2 cycles per year, and i am thinking on do this tren cycle then add the 3ui of gh constantly.

Do you think is worth it add 3 ui per day of legit gh after do the cycle then continue with the gh all year round and do the 2 cycles per year?or 3 ui isnt worth it the money?

thanks to all

 

[casanovaaa]

good question and following to see how it goes for you. how long will you pin tren for?

 

[PilaS]

good question and following to see how it goes for you. how long will you pin tren for?

always 50-100 ed when i started to do tren cycles,i always pinned ED cause on 3J say that is better than EOD for keep the levels stable.

i will do tren a week1-12 75-100 mg ed
and test prop 25 mg ED week 1-14 cause one time did the same weeks and on post cycle had the worst depresion ever and couldnt keep it up,so i recomend do 2 last week of prop for let tren clear
and all weeks do 0,5 mg twice of cabergoline never used tren with cabergoline cause i know that make the cycle the best cycle porn actor mode activated.

And cause i did a lot of tren cycles this would be my last tren cycle,then i will inclue 3 uis of legit gh and then i will just stick to 1-12 50 mg test prop EOD with 150 masteron eod plus the gh,i just stick with test p tren a mast p,and in the past used oral winstrol and you look inside like a old man with flagile muscles in my case,i dont spend money on orals only injectables then this is why i only use short steres,and i am thinking if use gh now while i am doing the tren cycle but i readed that is better start inject gh after the cycle then stick with 3 ui ED and continue doing 2 cycles per year plus the gh 3 ui per day

all i learnt was when i registered for first time on steroidology and when i was 25 people saw me like omg what changeds you did in short time.my respect for 3J and his aas and nutrition articles cause nutrition is 85% and thanks for the people on this forum that is well knowledged.

 

[Harnold]

Hi to all,in the past i waso nly doing bulking on all cycles,now ihave 12 vials of legit tren a and 3 vials of test p.
i will be doing 10 12 weeks of tren a with lows test p,i never liked use more than 200 mg of test and i like that i dont need to use ai cause low test p dose then i dont have water retention cause diet is correct(thanks to 3j and all of his articles,cause all i know is cause i read 3j cycle and diet articles)

Now i will be doing maintenance calories instead 4600 kcal that was using on all past cycles.

i will do 700 mg tren a per week with 1mg of caber per week and 175mg of test p(this is my favourite cycle,i did this cycle a lot of times)

but the thing is,i can get legit gh and i can use like 3 ui per day,normally i do 2 cycles per year, and i am thinking on do this tren cycle then add the 3ui of gh constantly.

Do you think is worth it add 3 ui per day of legit gh after do the cycle then continue with the gh all year round and do the 2 cycles per year?or 3 ui isnt worth it the money?

thanks to all

Unless you are getting the GH very cheap from a solid source, I would hold off and try running the cycle without the GH. That is a pretty low test to tren ratio in my experience. Personally I cannot take the sides from tren although I will acknowledge that it works very well. If the low test you run does the job, then stick with it. That much tren would have me in jail very quickly I suspect. lol

 

[Anon44]

The lower the test the better on tren has been my experience. Higher test to tren ratio or even then my sides were way more. Had someone mention the lower test thing way back and when I started doing it the sides were pretty much nonexistent. As long as your diet is dialed in you will be dry as a mofo with that low of test.

100mg ed of acetate had me looking awesome but at that high it messed with my head real bad. Never meet more irritable in my life

 

[Harnold]

The lower the test the better on tren has been my experience. Higher test to tren ratio or even then my sides were way more. Had someone mention the lower test thing way back and when I started doing it the sides were pretty much nonexistent. As long as your diet is dialed in you will be dry as a mofo with that low of test.

100mg ed of acetate had me looking awesome but at that high it messed with my head real bad. Never meet more irritable in my life

If it works for you, stick with it. I do not usually run teat all that high, but not as low as you do either. I wish I could stand the sides from tren as it worked very well for me when I tried it. I am actually pretty bitchy right now running about 500mg every 5 days with deca and some D-bol thrown in early. So I get what you said about getting messed up in the head with higher amounts. I suspect my BP may be up as the D-bol is causing me headaches I believe. I like the fullness from it, but starting to think I should drop it.

 

[jpflex66]

If it works for you, stick with it. I do not usually run teat all that high, but not as low as you do either. I wish I could stand the sides from tren as it worked very well for me when I tried it. I am actually pretty bitchy right now running about 500mg every 5 days with deca and some D-bol thrown in early. So I get what you said about getting messed up in the head with higher amounts. I suspect my BP may be up as the D-bol is causing me headaches I believe. I like the fullness from it, but starting to think I should drop it.

How long you been on dbol?

 

[appleton111]

If it works for you, stick with it. I do not usually run teat all that high, but not as low as you do either. I wish I could stand the sides from tren as it worked very well for me when I tried it. I am actually pretty bitchy right now running about 500mg every 5 days with deca and some D-bol thrown in early. So I get what you said about getting messed up in the head with higher amounts. I suspect my BP may be up as the D-bol is causing me headaches I believe. I like the fullness from it, but starting to think I should drop it.

Are you still on dbol and how long have you been on it?

 

[appleton111]

If it works for you, stick with it. I do not usually run teat all that high, but not as low as you do either. I wish I could stand the sides from tren as it worked very well for me when I tried it. I am actually pretty bitchy right now running about 500mg every 5 days with deca and some D-bol thrown in early. So I get what you said about getting messed up in the head with higher amounts. I suspect my BP may be up as the D-bol is causing me headaches I believe. I like the fullness from it, but starting to think I should drop it.

Is this cycle finished? how did your pct go and did you recover fully?

 

[appleton111]

I wouldnt run a cycle without test, and it sounds to me like you need more of a bulk cycle than a cut cycle.

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

what would happen of you only pinned tren without testosterone or any ai?
i am sure it has been done by some dudes who had no idea what they where doing.

 

[Ziegler]

I suspect my BP may be up as the D-bol is causing me headaches I believe. I like the fullness from it, but starting to think I should drop it.

what dosage & what kind ?

 

[casanovaaa]

The lower the test the better on tren has been my experience. Higher test to tren ratio or even then my sides were way more. Had someone mention the lower test thing way back and when I started doing it the sides were pretty much nonexistent. As long as your diet is dialed in you will be dry as a mofo with that low of test.

100mg ed of acetate had me looking awesome but at that high it messed with my head real bad. Never meet more irritable in my life

are you the same stats as op?

 

[Anon44]

are you the same stats as op?

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[casanovaaa]

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its a good question to ask since many here say that a certain protocol is good for them at age, 35, weight 250, height 6 4' but they forget that they are giving out advice to guy who is 25, weighs 175, is 5 2'. what works for some wont work for others. just my 2ccs worth.

 

[Anon44]

its a good question to ask since many here say that a certain protocol is good for them at age, 35, weight 250, height 6 4' but they forget that they are giving out advice to guy who is 25, weighs 175, is 5 2'. what works for some wont work for others. just my 2ccs worth.

Dont we all discuss our experiences with gear? Plus how am I supposed to know what his stats are since they werent mentioned in the op? I dont go fishing through other peoples posts and threads, no time for that. I figure none of us are the same and everything should be done at each persons discretion. Also with the tren high with low rest will leave you dry regardless of your stats, unless your eating like a pig and shouldnt be training anyway. Id love to see someone on 4-700 mighs of tren and only 100-250 ew of test and them be bloated. It isnt happening unless something else is way out of whack.

For me the test and tren issue has been consistent for many years so age hasnt affected me in that department.