High Blood Pressure - "the Silent Killer" - a true story

StoneColdNTO

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For those who have known me for a while, you probably already know this, for those of you who don't, you might find this little story interesting.
This was originally posted on another board on July 23, 2002.
Anyways, here is the original post;



I thought that I would share this with you all so hopefully you can avoid what has happened to me.

High blood pressure is often called the “silent killer” because often it displays no symptoms and can lead to stroke and heart disease.

First, a little background info on myself. I am 44, 5’10”, 225 lbs. Approx. 12 –14 % bf.
Have being training for 12 yrs, last 4 very serious. Have done 2 cycles, last on consisting was;

Wk 1 – 3, 100 mg Testolents EOD
Wk 1-9, 300 mg Organon Deca
Wk 1-10, 558 mg Testoviron Depot
Wk 7 -12, 50 mg Zambon Winstrol (winny) every 36 hours
1 mg armidex EOD

About half way through this cycle, I started getting short of breath & noticed a slight tightening in my chest. No big deal I thought, maybe just bordering on over training.

Two weeks after above cycle ended, shortness of breath was pretty well gone, but the tightening sensation in my chest was a little more pronounced, so I made a visit to the Medi Centre to get things checked. My bp was 170/100. He sent me for chest x-rays and an ECG that day, as well as starting me on bp meds. The results took about a week to come back, x-ray was ok. ECG was abnormal. Bp now was 160/110. An appointment was scheduled with a Internal Med Specialist to get a stress test done as well as he started me on a beta-blocker.

To make a long story short, I had a nuclear stress test done that showed that my left ventricle was enlarged. The specialist figures that the high bp , combined with heavy lifting (increases bp too) caused this. Steroids never entered into the conversation at all. Basically in laymen’s terms this means at present my heart is only working at 66% efficiency.

He also told me that if we keep my bp under control, start some cardio and ease up on the weights, that my heart should return to normal. But the more that this enlargement happens, the weaker the heart muscle becomes, eventually leading to congestive heart failure.

I guess the moral of this story is, it is very, very important to monitor your blood pressure, whether on cycle or not. They don’t call it the “silent killer” for nothing.
I would highly recommend that everyone invest in a bp machine and religiously monitor their bp. I just got a top of the line model and it only cost $110 Cdn, a very small price to pay as compared to one’s life.

BTW, I have never had high bp before and I don’t blame steroids, this could have happened without ever touching AAS, which makes checking your bp whether on cycle or not very important.
 
Great post, glad you got things in check now.

Little tip, dont ever rely on the Walmart machine. When you get it checked, if you have big arms...stress to the nurse over and over over again that you need the special obese cuff or whatever they call it there. Too small of a cuff will give an inacurate reading. Nurses for some reason dont like to believe you until about the 5th reading off the chart.

Another tip, the importance of anti-e's. Just for all of you that think you dont need them, E is related to higher BP.
 
SC,
Thanks for posting your story for everyone to see. People talk about headaches and other "indicators" of hypertension: it's very, very rare, as you know, for there to be ANY symptoms until there is end-organ damage (heart, kidney, eye, etc.)
Thanks again, we need to be reminded.
 
Billy_Bathgate said:
When you get it checked, if you have big arms...stress to the nurse over and over over again that you need the special obese cuff or whatever they call it there.

What is considered large? The machine says anything over 15 gives innacurate readings.
 
SC: Thanks for sharing bro.

I'm not sure if you want this info or not but it's helped my mother significantly.

http://www.viableherbalsolutions.com/products/prod32.htm

Look into it.

Also.......there's a pretty good site dedicatdto this sort of discussion:
http://www.heartcenteronline.com/myheartdr/Articles_about_the_heart/The_Beta_Blockers_Center.html

They've even got a discussion forum @ the bottom. Read up bro. The more you know, the better off you'll be dealing with this....especially if you plan to train for a long time!!!!!!

Good luck.
 
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Good post SC. Blood pressure is my greatest concern when I'm on a cycle. My blood pressure tends to get a little high when I'm on. I check it on a regular basis all the time.
 
thate said:
What is considered large? The machine says anything over 15 gives innacurate readings.

I used to have my own, which was great for taking BP! but after about 17" it was just way off since it didnt fit right. Never ordered a new one though......I need to now that I think about it, but Im in a hospital at least 1x a week anyways.

15-16 is where Id cut it off.
 
Just to add to what Billy just said, I found this, but if I remember correctly, when I bought mine, it came with different size cuff options.

Use the right cuff
A very important factor often overlooked by doctors is the size of the blood pressure cuff used. The cuff should be snug, but not tight. A cuff that is too small can produce a very high blood pressure reading when the actual blood pressure is normal or even below normal.

Standard-sized cuffs cannot be used with an upper arm circumference of over 16 inches. Larger cuffs, designed for use on the leg of an average size person, should be readily available and can be used on the larger arm. If a large cuff isn't available, or if the arm is too large for a thigh cuff, blood pressure can be measured by placing the cuff over the forearm, rather than the upper arm, and listening to the pulse at the wrist. Another option is to purchase a large size cuff and bring it to the doctor's office.
 
Good post SC. Sorry to hear about your misfortune, but atleast you caught it in time. What is your blood pressure now?
 
DRveejay11 said:
SC: Thanks for sharing bro.

I'm not sure if you want this info or not but it's helped my mother significantly.

http://www.viableherbalsolutions.com/products/prod32.htm

Look into it.

Also.......there's a pretty good site dedicatdto this sort of discussion:
http://www.heartcenteronline.com/myheartdr/Articles_about_the_heart/The_Beta_Blockers_Center.html

They've even got a discussion forum @ the bottom. Read up bro. The more you know, the better off you'll be dealing with this....especially if you plan to train for a long time!!!!!!

Good luck.


SC: just making sure you saw this bro ;)
 
DRveejay11 said:
SC: Thanks for sharing bro.

I'm not sure if you want this info or not but it's helped my mother significantly.

http://www.viableherbalsolutions.com/products/prod32.htm

Look into it.

Also.......there's a pretty good site dedicatdto this sort of discussion:
http://www.heartcenteronline.com/myheartdr/Articles_about_the_heart/The_Beta_Blockers_Center.html

They've even got a discussion forum @ the bottom. Read up bro. The more you know, the better off you'll be dealing with this....especially if you plan to train for a long time!!!!!!

Good luck.

Yes and "Thanks" as usual. I actually already am a member of HeartCentreOnLine, although I have not really gotten into the discussion group part of it.
And you hit it right on the head, the more you know about this, the better off one will be.
Thanks again !!
 
Those machine are not made for people with above average size arms. Your best bet would be to just buy a BP cuff that will fit your arm.
 
I swear to god its funny every time a go to new Dr's nurse takes out the little one and realizes it wont work and gets the big one.

I don't say nothing just funny I expect it and it always happens.

I usually go to Dr's in dressed clothing baggy long sleeves so I don't get asked the inevitable question.
Do you do aas!
 
DangerousGrounds said:
I cant fit my bi in any machine cuffs.
I just use my forearm.
Is this an accurate way?

"If a large cuff isn't available, or if the arm is too large for a thigh cuff, blood pressure can be measured by placing the cuff over the forearm, rather than the upper arm, and listening to the pulse at the wrist."
 
DRveejay11 said:
SC: check this out when you have time. it helped my mother out significantly!

I'm not sure if you want this info or not but it's helped my mother significantly.

http://www.viableherbalsolutions.co...ucts/prod32.htm

Later...............:p

Thanks fot that link, I think I might just have to try that out.

btw, for some strange reason that link does not work, but it is the same one you posted further above and that does work, like I said "strange"
 
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