High Primo, low test cycle.

[Trust_]

Hey guys, im starting my new cycle tonight.

Here it is:

Week 1-6 Tbol @ 40 to 60 mg /day
Week 1-4 clomid 50 mg/d
Week 1-20 Primo enanthate @ 750 mg/w
Week 5-19 Sustanon 300 @ 300mg/week
Week 19-21 Test prop 85mg EOD
Week 22 post cycle therapy (pct) start.


Im introducing test at week 5. I plan on starting test sooner in case of libido/sex drive/ED problems. I want to give the primo a head start. Im staying low test thru-out my cycle because i cant afford to have too much andro sides( ie aggressiveness) cause of my occupation. I already have a bad temp off cycle. So keeping my test to a minimum is what im looking for.

Im 5,9
195 pounds
14% +/- BF

Looking for a smooth lean mass cycle.

Diet is in check, but hard to maintain on some days. I will do a carb cycling, approx 2200 cal /day (3J diet)

 

[Trust_]

Ok so, ive been waiting for this moment for 2 months now.....

1st PRIMO 250 shot: 1.5 cc Went in super smoothly. Need to go slow though. I could feel it going in. It was saying to me ''go slowly or i will hurt you '' !!
No pip whatsoever. so far.

Took 40 mg Tbol pre workout today, and 50 mg clomid at dinner time.

Im using clomid on beginning of cycle to counteract the shut down effect from the primo, while running no test.

 

[Trust_]

Giving you guys an update on the Primo 250 pip. None so far, after 12 hrs, no soreness, nothing. 1.5 cc is a good volume i think.

 

[clsmth700]

wow

solid cycle bro

 

[xato]

will check that log out!! solide cycle

 

[Trust_]

Its almost 48 hrs post-shot (Primo 250, 1.5 cc) . I still feel the shot, but it doesn't hurt. I think the primo 250 is worth it. So far im loving it. Next Primo shot is Saturday morning.
However i do have some stomach aches today. Maybe related to the Tbol...im not sure.
I feel tighter and look more vascular already, but im sure that's in my head.
Ill try to post pics soon...like a week 1 shot...

 

[rowdybrad]

Got me a 250, was wanting to see some more on that kick it's got. Sounds awesome!

 

[Trust_]

Got me a 250, was wanting to see some more on that kick it's got. Sounds awesome!

Its not too bad.PIP wise its like a prop shot kinda feeling. Very manageable. 3cc surely beats shooting 7.5 cc per week not counting Test.

 

[Harvie]

tuning in. What are your expectations for this cycle? What would you expect to see from it in terms of lean mass, strength, overall well being, confidence, sex drive etc.

 

[Trust_]

tuning in. What are your expectations for this cycle? What would you expect to see from it in terms of lean mass, strength, overall well being, confidence, sex drive etc.

To be honest this cycle is very different from anything i ever did. This cycle is like a try-out cycle for me.
I always used to do high androgens / low anabolics. I think its gona be a lean mass increase, maybe not dramatic, but quality muscle.
I think most gains i will keep. Im trying to go as low as possible on test. I dont think sex drive will change. This is one major problem i get from high test cycles...too much libido...

Some say high primo is like running tren without the sides. This is mostly why i wanted to try this.

Overall well being, well i get that just from training. I dont think ill feel like a ''super hero'' like when on high test.

Strength should increase, but again maybe not dramatically.

We ll see how it goes, as this cycle has a very different approach than what im used to.

I would like to give an update on the primo 250 pip. It still feel bruised after 3 days now....Im considering trying the primo 150 @ 2.5 cc (375 mg) and compare it to the 250 @ 1.5 cc (375 mg). I will try 2.5 cc of the primo 150 tomorrow, in the left glute... mg per mg ill find out which one is best.

 

[Trust_]

Today was shot number 2. I did 2.5 cc of the primo 150. My plan is to compare the 2 primos, the 150 and the 250.

Im evaluating if the 150 or the 250 is a better option overall. So far, ill be honest, im not super happy about the 250. After 3.5 days, i still feel like i got a kick in my ass...At first it was fine, but 48hrs later it started to feel bruised.

It might be in my head, but i feel tighter already .

Keep in mind im not introducing test until i feel any signs of low test. Im still taking clomid @ 50 mg ED and Tbol @ 40 mg ED

 

[Trust_]

Giving you guys an update on the primo 150 shot. (2.5 cc) Dont feel a thing- Its like it never happened.

Ill stick with the 150 from now on...the 250 has too much of a kick. Im sorry if i mislead any of you on the primo 250...at first it didnt feel too bad...but the bruising feeling lasting 3-4 days was really annoying...

So ill stick to pinning 2.5 x 2 of the 150...for 750 primo/w.

I will bump my tbol to 60mg/day...

Im starting to feel fukin tight and hard...and vascularity is increased a bit. That Tbol is good stuff imo

 

[Trust_]

Oh boy, i LOVE that PRIMO 150.... SO much smoother then the 250, its day and night. I suggest you guys go for the 150. I think im going to bump it at 2x 3cc per week....That will be 900mg Primo/week

 

[Harvie]

Why did you choose Primo for this cycle vs something else? Hows your appetite?

 

[crios660]

In the 10 years ive been in the game, i have yet to try primo. Those bottles you posted look tasty as hell!!! Good luck with your cycle dude.

 

[Trust_]

My appetite seem to have increased a bit. Im wondering if its related to the tbol. Primo doesnt aromatise for one thing, and its side effect are somewhat non existent. It is one of the safest AS you can do. It produces lean mass, good muscle definition. You kinda keep the ''natural'' look..

I got a question for you guys....i might add 400-600 mg EQ/w to this cycle...what do you guys think? (id like to increase vascualrity a little)


Edit: Just did my 3rd shot, 3cc (450 mg) , went in super smoothly... So im bumping the primo to 900 mg/w.

 

[Harvie]

I was thinking about vascularity. Would it increase normally with most anabolics without a great deal of water retention? But for EQ, it would increase it more? I was thinking about if the ladies would like increased vascularity, and im not sure lol. Not sure if you were doing it for aesthetic reasons, or personal. Personal reasons I love vascularity haha.

 

[Trust_]

EQ increase your hematocrit, which is the number of red cells in your blood. Most AAS do that, but EQ does it more. Thats a reason why u get more vascular on EQ.

Giving you guys an update. Im starting to feel more ''tight'' and hard. Like my whole body is tighter/harder...It might be the Tbol kicking in.

Still no sign of lowered natural testosterone...so im staying away from exogenous test for now...

 

[4everBulking]

nice cycle!

 

[Tha Rock]

sweet cycle. i'm glad to hear about tbol cuz ive been wanting to try it. do u rec starting w/40mg and bumping up to 60 or 80?