How did you Build your base naturally or enhanced?

How did you build your base?

  • Naturally

    Votes: 18 66.7%

  • Enhanced

    Votes: 9 33.3%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
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XELFLEC

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I always see people preaching their philosophy of spend years in the gym natural and build a base then use gear.
But as a believer of not believing everything people say and building my own philosophy from my experiences, I went against the grain.

So I'll admit I pulled the trigger a tad bit too soon on the gear(who hasn't?). BUT I feel as I'm going to constantly going to be learning new ways to train diet and cycle for a long time regardless. I'm not getting younger, and 3 years into this game and a year Into cycling, I'd say I've built a decent base based on what I'm working with.

Would I have been better off doing these 3 years natural?
I don't think so, I pretty strict on leaving the ego out of the gym, and I've steady built my lifts up to allow my muscles to adapt. Therefor I think I'm better off than half the guys I see just going in and throwing weight on every week that they can barely get 2 reps of.
 
Your overlooking what doesn't go on in the gym. Anybody can go to the gym and throw weights around. That's easy. Dieting is the hard part. Getting adequate sleep can be difficult. Managing stress can be problematic. Working a lot can have a negative impact too...
 
I won't lie, i started my first cycle at 18 out of pure curiosity. I heard both sides of what people had to say about gear and i wanted to see for myself. I got VERY good gains, then stopped afterward. Luckily i had no problem keeping those gains afterward.
 
Your right. I did overlook that as important. But I did state I'm always learning new ways to diet.

I could see how some noob just hitting the gym not knowing the importance of dieting and the gains that can be made that way alone, could be counter productive.
Luckily I researched and at least attempted 80% strict diets for the past 3 years.

Throwing weights around can have a huge impact to your longevity if you get injured. Thinking you train hard enough and actually training hard enough to grow I think gets over looked.
 
First of all, "the newbie" must go in the gym and learn the correct way of doing the exercises. This is very important, because the way the "newbie" learns them it will be stuck in his mind forever and if he gets it wrong, then it's very difficult to correct them.
Then it's important to know that bodybuilding is a lifestyle not some summer-toy. The "newbie" must be able to have healthy nutrition, no junk food and also plenty of sleep.
A bodybuilder consists of 40% sleep, 30% food and 30% gym.

I started my first cycle after working out for 2 years with a few breaks here and there. A sport professor advised me back then about the importance of the correctness of doing the exercises. Now, I'm very glad I've listened. I've had only one minor shoulder injury that was fixed with my first cycle. No injuries since then.
 
I built my base without gear because of psychological reasons. I wanted to see how far I could get on my own, so that I had an idea of where I should be once I started the gear. I spent 6 months training naturally when I made my comeback. Plus, I had some minor rehab work to do on my back. I think I planned it perfectly. My progress before and after has been satisfactory.

I don't think I would be as far along as I am now had I started the process on gear.
 
Seven years training naturally as well as competitive powerlifting at a national level against enhanced blokes before I bit the bullet. I'm glad I did it the way I did, but always wonder what could have been should I have jumped on whilst competing. I was a bee's dick off a 600lb bench too. Imagine that on test, tren and anadrol?
 
XELFLEC said:
So here is an example of why you should build natural if your not going to put the effort or research into what your doing.
/face palm what is an AI?
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...u-guys-think-im-getting-any-results-pics.html
Click to expand...


So is that to say it is ok or good to build your base enhanced if you do research well? Curious to yours and others thoughts on the topic. Ill be glad to share my experience but I want to hear peoples thoughts and weed out the good points from the bs justifications and see where my thoughts end up on the issue.
 
i started lifting in middle school.. didn't touch anabolics till i was 24... i was a powerlifter by blood so i was always heavy
 
I used sustanon (cheated with sustanon?) to get through phase 3 infantry training, at 22...so did nine or ten other guys in my sixteen person platoon.

Judge away.
 
i put on 50 lbs naturally before juicing. i was 6' 150lbs when i started lifting. I think it is better to learn to lift right and eat right, and learn how to grow without steroids first, that way when you use steroids you will get so much more out of them because you already know how to train and eat right.
 
When I was first a "newbie" I was about 119 pounds, being 22 years old. My attitude was do a bunch of bicep curls, tricep extension, bench and drink a lot of protein power...and you will blow up, that was my mentality. As I started hitting the gym..learning about dieting, compound movements, sleep, mind muscle connection..I actually put on a shit load of strength and about 30-35 pounds..everybody told me I was making gains. So, yes u do feel you need to build your foundation naturally becuase if you take it serious you will make a shit load of gains being thtt you are a newbie. As of today I have been lifting for about 3 years and I am now 172 pound 12 %bf at about 5'6 5'7 inches..
 
Took me years to get to my base, and base isn't even physical to me, it's both mental and physical... As well as emotional. I had so many ups and downs, from getting way too fat to losing all muscle on a shitty cut being natty. What supplements work, what don't, how to cook lol how to USE PROPER FORM, what foods work for me, what makes me sick, feel good, how to properly bench, deadlift etc etc... When we mean "build a base" it means just gain more knowledge, muscle and dedication.
 
Did my first Test E cycle at 28. Now 29 and am running a test blend equipoise and var for the summer.

I started working out at 21. Basically dinking around the gym for a couple years. Then got into powerlifting. Then around age 25 I had a messy breakup with my now ex gf and wanted to look good to pick up girls so went back to a bodybuilding style training. Been doing a hybrid strength/bodybuilding style workout ever since.

When I started I was 5'8 130 lbs and about 15% body fat. Now I am sitting at 188 lbs and 10% body fat. The biggest I got natural was 185 and about 15% bodyfat. If I tried to drop more fat as a natty at that weight I would drop down to like 165-170 so I was losing a lot of muscle too.
 
I started lifting on my 14th birthday. Trained naturally for 15 years before my first cycle. 10 years later, I'm on for good and happy about it. I love having high testosterone levels. That's how I'll live for the rest of my life.

I just turned 39 last week. I'm still going strong after 25 years of weightlifting. :) That's another thing I'll be doing for the rest of my life.
 
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